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Trump 2024 thread The Newsy You: News of Today
Started 2/24/23 by WALTER784; 77123 views.
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From: WALTER784
Aug-29
Yes, because once they get rid of the leaders, there will be nobody left to fend for the rest of us.
Once that's completed, then all Americans will be attacked.
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From: WALTER784
Aug-29
“The Hood Is Waking Up!” – Blacks Cheer Trump After Arrest – Trump Support from Black Community Climbs to 20% in Latest Poll
By Jim Hoft
Aug. 25, 2023 7:20 pm
The tyrannical left arrested President Donald Trump on Thursday night and took a mug shot.
They have now charged Trump with 91 garbage felony charges. He is facing over 400 years in prison for speaking out against the stolen 2020 election.
The regime will not allow dissent.
Stephen Miller said it best, “At least, foreign despotic regimes pretend the people they are jailing are guilty of spying, that they’re agents of a foreign country. Now, here in America we’re jailing people for speech we don’t like. We’re imprisoning people for asking them to lobby a state legislature or watch a particular TV program.”
The arrest of President Trump may be backfiring for the tyrannical left.
On Friday several videos were posted online of Black Americans cheering President Trump.
Antoine Tucker.
Blacks are waking up.
60 years of Democrat policies have destroyed black communities in America.
Already after three years of Joe Biden and Kamala Harris blacks are switching to Trump.
Trump’s support with Black Americans is ALREADY at 20% via the latest FOX News poll.
And a recent Premise poll shows President Trump with 12% black support to 57% for Joe Biden with 31% of blacks not sure — or not willing to tell a pollster how they really feel.
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Staff
From: WALTER784
Aug-29
The Flaw in Trump’s Georgia Indictment
Published 08/17/23 09:45 AM ET
Andrew C. McCarthy
What’s become of the presumption of innocence?
The question is an urgent one due to Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis’s election interference case against Donald Trump and 18 others, which she has dubiously framed as a racketeering conspiracy.
Why has DA Willis invoked Georgia’s version of the federal Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations (RICO) Act, which is typically applied to mobsters engaged in the familiar rackets of murder, extortion, trafficking in narcotics and stolen goods, gambling, prostitution and so on? Because there’s a giant hole in her case: the lack of a clear crime to which Trump and his co-defendants can plausibly be said to have agreed.
Let’s put RICO to the side for a moment and focus on conspiracy. Very simply, a conspiracy is an agreement to violate a criminal statute. It takes two to tango, so a conspiracy must minimally involve a pair of people. Beyond that, though, it can involve three people, 19 people, 100 people — any number. Regardless of how many people are said to be implicated, however, there is always one requirement: There must be a meeting of the minds about the crime that is the objective of the conspiracy.
If prosecutors allege a large-scale conspiracy, various conspirators may play different roles. In a conspiracy to sell cocaine, for example, some people may handle importation; others handle sales or security, and still others, accounting and management of the cash proceeds. But what unites these role-players in a single conspiracy is the criminal objective — in our example, to sell cocaine. If there is no agreement about a crime, there is no conspiracy.
Usually, this is not a problem for prosecutors. While constitutional due process guarantees that every American is presumed innocent, it also dictates that no American can be charged with a crime and forced to stand trial unless there is probable cause that a crime has been committed.
As a result, even though prosecutors bear the burden of proving the case beyond a reasonable doubt before there can be a conviction, we can easily understand why the defendants have been charged. If they are charged with conspiracy, the indictment will clearly state the crime they allegedly agreed to commit — e.g., drug trafficking, bank robbery, murder, extortion. Whatever the objective crime may be, we understand that the prosecutors, the police, and the grand jury have established to the court’s satisfaction that there is enough evidence to establish probable cause that the alleged conspirators agreed to commit a crime.
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That is what’s so strange about DA Willis’s indictment. She alleges that the 19 people named in her indictment are guilty of conspiracy because they agreed to try to keep Donald Trump in power as president — specifically, to “change the outcome of the election in favor of Trump.” Maybe they shared such an aim, maybe their 19 minds met regarding that objective, but in and of itself, trying to reverse the result of an election is not a crime. You may have noticed that neither Al Gore nor Stacey Abrams was ever led away in handcuffs.
To be clear, it’s entirely possible that people can perform criminal acts in the pursuit of a lawful objective. If they do, they may be charged with those crimes — and if the crimes are serious, they should be charged. That, however, does not mean their overarching objective was a crime. And again, if you don’t have two or more people agreeing on an objective that is a crime, you don’t have a conspiracy.
Willis tries to get around this inconvenience in two ways, neither of which works.
Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis speaks during a news conference at the Fulton County Government building on August 14, 2023 in Atlanta, Georgia.
The first is a tautology: She conclusively asserts, on page 14 of the indictment, that this was a “conspiracy to unlawfully change the outcome of the election in favor of Trump.” That is, the lawful objective of changing the election outcome somehow becomes unlawful because she invokes the apparently talismanic word “unlawful.” But there is no crime of unlawfully trying to change an election outcome — not in Georgia law nor any other American law.
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Host
From: Showtalk
Aug-30
Yes they are saying he has lost all Black support and that he never had Black female summer.
Host
From: Showtalk
Aug-30
She had to pull in a never used law because he didn’t violate the law they said he did.
Staff
From: WALTER784
Aug-30
Showtalk said...
Yes they are saying he has lost all Black support and that he never had Black female summer.
And they said he colluded with Russia.
And they said he pulled a quid pro quo on Ukraine.
And they said... ahhhh... don't get me started... Delphiforums has a 5000 character limit.
What they say doesn't even add up to a hill of beans. More like a pile of horse apples! (* CHUCKLE *)
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Staff
From: WALTER784
Aug-30
Doesn't matter where it comes from... the stench is still the same!!!
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