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What should the U.S. do now about the 4 kidnapped in Mexico?   The Serious You: How Current Events Affect You

Started Mar-9 by Showtalk; 406 views.
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Poll Question From Showtalk

Mar-9

What should the U.S. do now about the 4 kidnapped in Mexico?
  • We should declare war on the cartels0  votes
    0%
  • We should do more than over a $50,000 reward1  vote
    16%
  • Nothing now, the cartel turned over the 5 kidnappers2  votes
    33%
  • Nothing, the 4 were criminals charged with drug and other crimes before the k...1  vote
    16%
  • We should prohibit Americans from going to Mexico for medical treatment1  vote
    16%
  • Other1  vote
    16%
We should declare war on the cartels 
We should do more than over a $50,000 reward 
Nothing now, the cartel turned over the 5 kidnappers 
Nothing, the 4 were criminals charged with drug and other crimes before the k... 
We should prohibit Americans from going to Mexico for medical treatment 
Other 
In reply toRe: msg 1
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From: Showtalk 

Mar-9

#2 “over” should be “offer.”

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From: Showtalk 

Mar-9

Mexico officials probing attack against four Americans with rap sheets

Mexican law enforcement agents are investigating the possibility that members of a drug cartel kidnapped four Americans last Friday thinking that they were encroaching on their turf.

The_Rock (JABRONI256)

From: The_Rock (JABRONI256) 

Mar-9

Isn’t the official policy already war with the cartels? We interdict their drugs, we harshly criminalize their puppet gangs here, we supply the Mexicans with arms and equipment to fight them over there and often green light cross border operations against them, doesn’t seem to work so I think option 1 is pretty pointless.

Voted 3, a compromise.

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From: Showtalk 

Mar-10

Not officially or they would have been shut down a long time ago.   It’s a new wrinkle if the four weren’t targeted randomly but because they were there to run drugs for a cartel.

The_Rock (JABRONI256)

From: The_Rock (JABRONI256) 

Mar-10

Showtalk said:

Not officially or they would have been shut down a long time ago.

Yeah, Team USA always gets the job done right? Come on. Unilaterally acting  by invading a foreign nation to target the cartels wouldn't go over well, and unless you could flush every hole in the country, I'm not sure even then you'd get them all, I mean, El Chapo has escaped US custody TWICE. We fought in Afghanistan for a decade, more than a decade, we didn't get them all, they run that place now, so I don't think your assertion that it would have been shut down long ago is right at all.

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From: Showtalk 

Mar-10

If we wanted told we could, so I have to conclude those with the ability to stop them aren’t interested.  Mexico could stop them as well if they wanted to.  There are ways to remove all their funding.

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From: Showtalk 

Mar-10

I watched part of it and I agree with him. But if you notice, we used to shoot down drug planes.  Cuba just killed them all. California is to blame by allowing product to walk across the border.  Smugglers also use something called panga boats and when CA locates one, they rescue the crew. So who is to blame and who has the will to stop it? Maybe no one.

Public sentiment was with the four kidnapped victims unto it looked like they were drug smugglers.

The_Rock (JABRONI256)

From: The_Rock (JABRONI256) 

Mar-10

Showtalk said:

But if you notice, we used to shoot down drug planes.  Cuba just killed them all.

Right, that's called interdiction, we still do that, cartels have also gotten more sophisticated as well, a very different thing from a land war we absolutely have zero guarantee would be successful.

Showtalk said:

So who is to blame and who has the will to stop it? Maybe no one.

My thesis on this hasn't changed, the one thing we have never done is put the same dollars we have in enforcement into treatment and actually correcting the issues with drug users so there are less of them, less users means less profit, less profit means a sluggish market, the cartels might pivot to Europe.

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