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Are the suburbs outdated?   The Serious You: How Current Events Affect You

Started 7/1/20 by Showtalk; 3041 views.

The suburbanites he is speaking to that would have resonated are now either already deceased or have been dependent on Social Security and pensions for a couple of decades, while the age range that used to make up that group weren't even born back in 1970.

It kind of reminds me of some psychological thriller where an elderly homeless man was trying to get to see his boy again, and bought that baseball glove he'd promised with the $50 winning lottery ticket.

The reality was, that long-lost son had been raised to adulthood by his mother, had moved on and had a family of his own, and the now dry alcoholic had been stuck in the past all those years.

The incongruity of the last ditch effort to repair the past, to have spent most of one's life trying to fix a single insurmountable obstacle against the backdrop of time had marched on, unnoticed, in the intervening decades. If I remember the plot correctly (and I don't even remember the name of the show) the dude was unable to grasp the reality that the 9 year old son he'd promised the baseball glove for his birthday and the entire freeze-frame scene on the backdrop of history was already a moment that was long gone.

MerlinsDad

From: MerlinsDad 

7/28/20

Your recollection of the story sounds much like Trump and his efforts to win suburban votes.  He seems unaware that they have changed.  Our parents started the flight to the suburbs following WWII and fled farther out in the 1960s during the emigration known as "white flight."  

Our grandchildren now reside in the racially mixed suburbs with our great grandchildren playing with children with African-American Hispanic, Asian, and African parents.   We're the generation who remembers the changes wrought by the Civil Rights Act of 1964, and now we have the pleasure of watching those children play in the streets in front of our houses. 

Trump is trying inflame fears where, as this piece points out, there are none.   

And then there's this song that all of that about the passage of time and things that are no longer the same, reminds me of:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tH2w6Oxx0kQ

I first heard this on vinyl way back in college, as the 2nd track following the iconic album naming title track.

As an aside, a hit track on their earlier album "Leftoverture", used as the title song for the series "Supernatural", is what gave the band a huge comeback some 40 years after their original heyday.

MerlinsDad

From: MerlinsDad 

7/28/20

I thought you were linking "Sunrise, Sunset" from Fiddler on the Roof.  I was not familiar with "Dust in the Wind."   Time passes and we hardly notice it.  Trump's not that old, but he's certainly trying tactics that worked best 40 years ago or in other authoritarian regimes around the world.  He and the American public certainly don't seem in sync.  The suburbs may fool him for the reasons we've discussed.  The suburbs may have, when we were hardly looking, transmogrified into something else because the nation has changed so much, as the article discusses.  

MerlinsDad said:

The suburbs may have, when we were hardly looking, transmogrified into something else because the nation has changed so much, as the article discusses.

That's probably how it sneaked up on us.

MerlinsDad

From: MerlinsDad 

7/29/20

I live in a diverse county in a diverse state. 

Our parents were the ones who fled the cities for the suburbans following WWII.  Our generation may never have known anything but suburban life; our kids only knew the suburbs; our grandkids likewise.  There are still predominately white communities, but for the most part, the suburbs are diverse.  Trump may be scaring some, but, as the article points out, not a lot.

He made this statement today ""You know, the suburbs, people fight all of their lives to get into the suburbs and have a beautiful home. There will be no more affordable housing forced in to the suburbs," he said. "It's been going on for years. I've seen conflict for years. It's been hell for suburbia. We rescinded the rule three days ago so enjoy your life, ladies and gentlemen, enjoy your life."  https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/29/politics/donald-trump-suburbs-housing/index.html

The suburbs are no longer where people flee to.  They are simply where people live.   I know there are still inner city problems in some of the older cities, but I can't speak authoritatively about them.  I think Trump is , as we've discussed, using scare tactics that might have worked 40 years ago. 

What he is doing, however, with his dog whistle is encouraging segregation, and that may get him some votes. 

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From: Showtalk 

7/29/20

One should read everything said rather than relying on a small portion.  Biden’s team found that his anti suburb stance is going to cost him votes, and they are literally panicking.  It was my understanding that Trump is referring to the violence and rioting in cities being brought to the suburbs, not minorities.  As stated above, suburbs are often very diverse communities.  The rioters even said a few times they were going to hit the suburbs next.  

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From: Showtalk 

7/29/20

Anyone who ever watched a season of The Apprentice could never say Trump is a racist.  

kizmet1

From: kizmet1 

8/3/20

I recently saw something about Trump and Dr Ben Carson, Sec of Housing, changing the law.
Isn't Dr Carson Black? Hmmmm
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From: Showtalk 

8/3/20

Yes Dr. Carson is Black.

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