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Have you been vaccinated for Covid 19?   The Healthy You: Health and Fitness Polls

Started 3/6/21 by Showtalk; 4472 views.
WALTER784

From: WALTER784 

3/30/21

And then there's the FedEx flight 80 from China to Narita piloted by a Chinese which crash landed right on the runway.

It came in nose first (unheard of), bounced off the runway, flipped over and then exploded into flames.

The crash occurred at 6:49AM (one of the first flights into Narita that day) and all flights for the rest of the day were entirely re-routed to another airport due to all the smoke. And even after the fire was put out. There was major damage to the runway. It took the inspectors 4 or 5 days to go through the wreckage trying to figure out what happened. Then they had to cut the plane up and tow it in pieces off of the runway because it was flipped on it's back and totally destroyed in the fire which took about another week to complete.

Closing that airport for a day costs over $100 Million. Cutting up and removing such a large structure also cost Millions and then they still had to repair the hole in the runway which all cost Millions more. During that time, Narita airport was limited to one of their two runways cutting the number of flights in half (i.e. $50 Million per day for more than 10 days)!

FWIW

 

WALTER784

From: WALTER784 

3/30/21

Yes... ban Chinese pilots & captains from operation of such large vessels. And then you would hear all kinds of racist slants or xenophobic claims!!!

Or... pay the piper to not pipe any more in your region!

FWIW

 

Showtalk
Host

From: Showtalk 

3/31/21

$100 million! That’s a good way to kill off part of the economy.

WALTER784

From: WALTER784 

3/31/21

Showtalk said...

$100 million! That’s a good way to kill off part of the economy.

That was just the 1st day, then they lost $50 Mil per day for 10 days (because only one runway cut the number of flights in half) adding an additional $500 Mil for a grand total of $600 Mil plus the cost of cutting up, moving and scrapping the plane as well as the cost to repair the runway too!

FWIW

Showtalk
Host

From: Showtalk 

4/1/21

Did they ever make it up?

WALTER784

From: WALTER784 

4/1/21

Luckily, it was a cargo flight and there were only 4 lives lost, but if it would have been a passenger flight, all people on board would have probably died.

It was determined that the amount of cargo on that type of craft was overloaded which made for an unsafe landing condition especially due to the strong winds making it difficult to keep the overweight craft upright, not to mention that it bounced several times before flipping over.

Well, China and FedEx were billed for about 90% of the loss (not sure exactly who paid what) and then the airport insurance with a little bit of Japanese government assistance was able to make up for the remaining loss.

During the period that one run way was out of order, they temporarily turned one wing of the Haneda airport (about 120 kilometers away) into an international terminal and diverted 80% of the aircraft that were to use that runway over to Haneda. 20% of those aircraft scheduled to use that runway were cancelled.

About 5 or 6 years later, they started construction of a new International Terminal at Haneda airport and added an additional runway there as well as adding a 3rd runway at Narita airport.

Narita is not a 24 hour airport. It doesn't accept flights after 10:30PM. Haneda on the other hand is a 24 hour airport so should aircraft arrive after 10:30PM at Narita, they were billed a hefty late penalty charge and allowed to land, but people deboarding the plane had to stay in the terminal all night until 6AM when the customs, quarantine and other services opened up.

Now, for any flights who arrive after 10:30PM at Narita, they're forwarded to Haneda which operates 24 hours. There is a slight penalty charge for unscheduled flights, but not as big as the late penalty charge at Narita.

FWIW

WALTER784

From: WALTER784 

4/1/21

And then there was this one:

Asiana admits error in fatal 2013 San Francisco crash landing

On Saturday, July 6 2013, an Asiana Airlines Boeing 777 carrying mostly Chinese passengers crashed and burst into flames as it landed short of the runway at San Francisco International Airport. Two teenage girls were killed and more than 180 people were injured.

https://www.scmp.com/news/world/article/1462297/asiana-blames-pilots-and-boeing-design-flaws-crash-killed-3-chinese

And...

China Airlines Flight 006 (callsign "Dynasty 006") was a daily non-stop flight from Taipei to Los Angeles International Airport. On 19 February 1985, the Boeing 747SP operating the flight was involved in an aircraft upset accident, following the failure of the No. 4 engine

And...

Plane crash kills 42 in north-eastern China

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-pacific-11076816

And...

Air China Boeing 777 Engine Fire Prompts Emergency Landing In Washington

https://simpleflying.com/air-china-engine-fire/

FWIW

Showtalk
Host

From: Showtalk 

4/2/21

Isn’t space in a Japan severely limited? Here, if they need more ground space for air travel, they just expand.

Showtalk
Host

From: Showtalk 

4/2/21

I remember the San Francisco crash. It was big news for days. 

WALTER784

From: WALTER784 

4/3/21

Showtalk said...

Isn’t space in a Japan severely limited? Here, if they need more ground space for air travel, they just expand.

It depends on where in Japan.

In larger cities, yes, it's very limited. The only way you can expand is up or down. If they want to expand sideways, it could take 20 ~ 30 or more years. Slowly buying up smaller buildings in a very large square or rectangular shape one at a time. After the final building in that block has been bought, they can finally tear down the old 2 ~ 5 or 6 story buildings, dig deep and place numerous pylons into the ground until they hit solid rock. Then they start building the basement, first floor followed by a large 40 ~ 80 story structure.

But in rural areas, they're always converting natural woodland, vegetable farms or rice paddies into homes or buildings.

FWIW

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