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Would you eat at a computerized restaurant?   The Consumer You: Marketplace

Started Apr-28 by Showtalk; 3736 views.
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From: Showtalk 

May-24

I would think everyone should want elections to be fair so we don’t have the kind of confusion we did in 2021.

WALTER784

From: WALTER784 

May-25

Showtalk said...

I would think everyone should want elections to be fair so we don’t have the kind of confusion we did in 2021.

Actually it was 2020... but YES... everybody... all parties... both Republican and Democrats should be concerned if our votes aren't tallying up properly.

This time around a Democrat was a winner, but if by using those same loopholes, a Republican were elected... I doubt that there would be a Democrat who would just stand by and let it happen!!!

The integrity of votes is of utmost importance for ALL... regardless of party!

FWIW

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From: Showtalk 

May-25

I was thinking confusion in January around inauguration time,

WALTER784

From: WALTER784 

May-25

Showtalk said...

I was thinking confusion in January around inauguration time,

The confusion started Nov 04, 05, 06, 2020 and just continued to build into 2021.

We didn't even know who won the election even by Christmas 2020!!!

FWIW

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From: Showtalk 

May-25

The winner was declared back in November, based on count. Now, whether that count was correct or not is open to speculation. The side that won has shot down every attempt to change that and their minds are made up. At this point, even if it is proved the count was accurate, the other side won’t beleive it either. So there is a standoff in opinion but not results. The Arizona count anomalies may change future voting but they aren’t going to redo November.  There have been other times in history when mistaken counts were suspected, even proved, but nothing was ever done to fix it. The sad thing about all,of this is even in races that were fairly voted and counted, there will always be suspicion.

WALTER784

From: WALTER784 

May-25

Showtalk said...

The Arizona count anomalies may change future voting but they aren’t going to redo November.

I don't doubt that one bit. It's too late now to attempt to do anything about Nov 2020.

Showtalk said...

There have been other times in history when mistaken counts were suspected, even proved, but nothing was ever done to fix it. The sad thing about all,of this is even in races that were fairly voted and counted, there will always be suspicion.

Absolutely, and thus we must find all of the problems with the Nov 2020 election and close all of the loopholes to reduce the errors and miscounts and as much suspicion as possible.

I don't think we can ever rule out all suspicion, but many things which are vague and lacking in clarity need to be tacked down and finalized before 2022 elections to make them much much better than Nov 2020!

Otherwise, we the American people (regardless of party) may not have any voice in the future if our votes don't count like they should!

FWIW

YWN666

From: YWN666 

May-25

I don't know that anyone with any credibility found unfairness in the 20 election.

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From: Showtalk 

May-25

Arizona.  There was no investigation anywhere else because the courts shut it down. No one wanted to deal with the fall out either way.  I wanted to see the voting machines investigated, as well as all the other allegations by everyone, so we can all agree it was fair.  No one likes the thought that it might have been wrong.  If nothing else, they need to look closely at districts where 150-200% of possible voters turned in ballots.  That is not statistically possible.  Or the Republican district that had 100% votes for Democrats and 0% for Republicans.  

YWN666

From: YWN666 

May-26

Showtalk said:

If nothing else, they need to look closely at districts where 150-200% of possible voters turned in ballots. That is not statistically possible. Or the Republican district that had 100% votes for Democrats and 0% for Republicans.

I've heard a lot of talk of that happening but have yet to see any credible evidence of it.  I would think by now someone would have been able to prove it.

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From: Showtalk 

May-26

The courts refuse to let them air any of their findings because no one wants to be responsible for the chaos that would ensue.   As a result we don’t know.  If you look closely at the anomalies, it’s statistically impossible for them to happen. Not just a small chance but not possible.  Arizona finally allowed it and found, just as they suspected, a lot of mess in the voting process.  Voting is actually very simple when handled properly.  

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