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Do we need universal childcare?   The Serious You: How Current Events Affect You

Started May-10 by Showtalk; 1372 views.
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Poll Question From Showtalk

May-10

Do we need universal childcare?
  • Yes, for all ages from babies and school aged children1  vote
    6%
  • Yes, for babies through preschool0  votes
    0%
  • Yes, for babies until they can start preschool0  votes
    0%
  • Yes, government childcare should be mandatory for all1  vote
    6%
  • Only if parents can't afford their own childcare3  votes
    18%
  • No, the government should not be involved in childcare11  votes
    68%
  • Other0  votes
    0%
Yes, for all ages from babies and school aged children 
Yes, for babies through preschool 
Yes, for babies until they can start preschool 
Yes, government childcare should be mandatory for all 
Only if parents can't afford their own childcare 
No, the government should not be involved in childcare 
Other 
The_Rock (JABRONI256)

From: The_Rock (JABRONI256) 

May-10

Voted 4, this is a big issue in Canada, a federal election issue every cycle; whoever promises the most spaces or comes closest to universal childcare carves out a big slice of the electorate every time, even if it's all lies which it always is.

WALTER784

From: WALTER784 

May-10

The_Rock (JABRONI256) said...

big issue in Canada, a federal election issue every cycle

Federal election issue or feral election issue? (* CHUCKLE *)

FWIW

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From: Showtalk 

May-11

Why do people want complete strangers taking care of their children?  Pretty much everyone I know who has family nearby used or uses them as sitters, even if they pay them.  Some create careers where they can work from home or in a setting where young children can be with them.  Others double down on spending as little as possible and having one parent  stay home until the children can start preschool.  If they are making enough with two incomes, they can pay for childcare for a few years.  There are preschools that also offer day care.  

Why do people want to believe politicians, who lie?  By the time the parents realize they’ve been duped, their children are in school. The schools here have after school care programs.

WALTER784

From: WALTER784 

May-12

Showtalk said...

Why do people want to believe politicians, who lie?

That's oxymoronic. All politicians lie... otherwise they wouldn't be politicians.

And that's also why I never wanted to become a politician because I hate to lie!

FWIW

 

The_Rock (JABRONI256)

From: The_Rock (JABRONI256) 

May-12

Showtalk said:

Why do people want complete strangers taking care of their children?

It's not about wanting it, it's about needing it; if you have two parents who have careers and neither want to give up those careers but want a family anyway, or you spend beyond your means so you have to work exceptionally demanding hours to afford a mortgage you never should of been approved for and have a kid you need that child care option to make it work. 

Showtalk said:

Why do people want to believe politicians, who lie?  

Despite what Walter thinks, and I disregard everything he thinks, when this issue is raised here at the Federal level, it's not like the Parties are lying for the sake of it, they do truly want to provide this, it means more productivity for workers and thus a better economy, the problem is that funding it through our current means is always going to be impossible but all the Parties believe their predecessor is lying about the books or that some cost savings will be there to afford this, truth is the only way to afford universal child care, or UBI or any other pie in the sky thing is raising taxes.

WALTER784

From: WALTER784 

May-12

Things that can be handled at the state level do not need to be escalated to the federal government level.

Childcare CAN be handled at the state level. Thus no need for federal government intervention or involvement!

FWIW

 

  • Edited May 12, 2021 11:04 am  by  WALTER784
Showtalk
Host

From: Showtalk 

May-12

The difference is whether they lie intentionally to get votes hoping people will not notice later or if they intend to keep promises and find out that they can’t.

Showtalk
Host

From: Showtalk 

May-12

If people used some semblance of self control regarding spending, they would not be over their heads.  Many of the poor families here have grandparents living with them to save money, or have moved in with parents.  The ones who seem to have the most trouble are those in the middle.  I’m not talking about people who can’t ever afford it and just work.  Some kind of safe childcare would be beneficial.  I was referring to those who don’t put their children above personal pleasures and think someone else should pay to raise them.  Costs are one reason states like California and New York are depopulating, but among with the moves, wages usually drop too.

I addressed that too.  Sometimes politicians think they can keep their promises. But when promises involve big spending, it is unfair to the country. Eventually they all run out of money, then people end up being worse off than they were.

Showtalk
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From: Showtalk 

May-12

States are more efficient because there are fewer layers of bureaucracy and they hopefully understand their populations at a community level.

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