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Should our desert communities make water from air?   The Consumer You: Marketplace

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WALTER784

From: WALTER784 

Aug-10

$1,661.87 in cats (ROCKETMAN_S) said...

So far it seems the Delta variant has protein spikes that are close enough that the vaccinated person's immune system recognizes it.

It seems that way... but is it really that way? Does everybody's immune system recognize it that way? I'm sure there are exceptions, but what percentage see it that way and what percentage don't? Oh... that information is not yet available.

$1,661.87 in cats (ROCKETMAN_S) said...

Now they think that mixing and matching vaccine brands may actually prime the immune for a little broader recognition

They think that now... but who really knows for sure... perhaps mixing and matching brands creates a more toxic cocktail that has adverse affects which have yet to be discovered. But over time... we'll know better.

$1,661.87 in cats (ROCKETMAN_S) said...

this stuff mutates because not enough have been vaccinated to slow the spread from a Santa-Ana wind driven wildfire to a slow smolder.

80% of the Israelis have been vaccinate... isn't 80% enough or does it require 90% or 95% or higher?

The vaccination is still experimental... and it has been proven that even getting the vaccination doesn't keep you from getting COVID. They say it reduces the awful symptoms, but there's just not enough data and what little data has been collected is not being shared with the general public.

Did you know that the CDC just recently (the past few weeks) decided to change the rules for how to count COVID deaths? Now, they say that if a person who died of COVID who was vaccinated is NOT to be counted as a COVID death. Last year, they were counting those who died of other causes, but tested positive for COVID as a COVID death.

Last year, it was to drive the COVID numbers up to make Trump look bad. This year, they're trying to drive the number of vaccinated down to make Biden look good and also to put more pressure on those unvaccinated as now they only count the unvaccinated who test positive.

And the vaccination is still EXPERIMENTAL!!!

FWIW

Showtalk
Host

From: Showtalk 

Aug-10

True. If everyone had antibodies there would not be any disease left to spread.

Showtalk
Host

From: Showtalk 

Aug-10

They aren’t even driving numbers down, they are ignoring anything that makes Biden look bad.  They forget all vaccines were developed under Trump.

WALTER784

From: WALTER784 

Aug-10

Showtalk said...

They aren’t even driving numbers down, they are ignoring anything that makes Biden look bad.

Hello... that's oxymoronic to say the least.

By ignoring it... they don't count the numbers which in turn drives those numbers down!!!

So they are driving the numbers down.

FWIW

 

Showtalk
Host

From: Showtalk 

Aug-10

They aren’t reporting low numbers, they are not reporting any.

WALTER784

From: WALTER784 

Aug-10

Showtalk said...

They aren’t reporting low numbers, they are not reporting any.

But they are recording numbers and those numbers are lower than the actual count. Even if they haven't reported on any of them yet. Several months down the road, via a FOIA or some other disclosure, those numbers will come out... and by that time, many will forget that these numbers are watered down numbers and report those numbers as actually measured numbers.

Hiding the numbers now in a tactical deception.

FWIW

What if there's something physiologically unique about the majority of Israelis that doesn't apply to most other ethnicities, that greatly reduces the effectiveness of the specific vaccine they are using.

I heard that in terms of effectiveness and least side effects, they rank roughly as

Phizer

Moderna

Johnson and Johnson

AstraZenica

(and then there's a whole bunch of vaccines developed overseas that aren't even being used in the US, and many countries have such a low roll-out that it's comparing oranges to cucumbers)

Showtalk said:

If everyone had antibodies there would not be any disease left to spread

Yep.

But there's going to be plenty of Covid Karens who refuse to get vaccinated, who refuse to maintain any distance or wear masks or anything to take a few decibels off of the droplet exchange rate, who is right behind you running into you with her cart while you try to get paid out, and is fuming to speak to someone's manager for the inconvenience.

WALTER784

From: WALTER784 

Aug-10

$1,661.87 in cats (ROCKETMAN_S) said...

What if there's something physiologically unique about the majority of Israelis that doesn't apply to most other ethnicities, that greatly reduces the effectiveness of the specific vaccine they are using.

That's a big if... but IF that's true... then the same traits of Israelis all over the world would show similar results... even if they've changed their citizenship.

FWIW

WALTER784 said:

IF that's true... then the same traits of Israelis all over the world would show similar results... even if they've changed their citizenship.

Thing is, has anyone actually done the study and compiled statistics yet?

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