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Banning Videos   The Serious You: How Current Events Affect You

Started Oct-13 by WALTER784; 4901 views.
WALTER784

From: WALTER784

Oct-13

The_Rock (JABRONI256) said...

it's a free speech debate you can have but it's pointless because Youtube is a privately owned platform whose terms of service you agree to

I never signed up with them... never agreed to any contractual obligations... but when somebody posts something... and I want to see what the posted... but Youtube says I cannot see it... that's... even as a private entity... suppression of free speech. And even though it's not constitutionally granted... it shows the audacity and pure evil gaul that they would suppress what ever they want based on their biased beliefs. And that holds true for Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, etc. Regardless of their reasoning for banning certain content and not others just proves their bias against certain groups, individuals, corporations, political beliefs, religious beliefs, you name it... they block what they don't like and/or don't want made known!

And nothing will change that other than abolishing those corporations or removing the powers they have to circumvent the people's desires to post what ever they want.

FWIW

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From: Showtalk

Oct-13

The problem is Youtube, Facebook, Google have monopolies that affect every aspect of life. Arguably they are more like public utilities now than private businesses due to their sheer size and necessity.  It’s almost impossible to use the public internet without using YouTube. 

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Jeri (azpaints)

From: Jeri (azpaints)

Oct-13

Free speech amendment only applies to government entities.

private companies (YouTube, Walmart, The NYTimes, your employer) can all restrict your freedom of speech.

https://www.mtsu.edu/first-amendment/page/things-you-need

People tend to forget the Constitution was written to protect citizens from government.

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From: Showtalk

Oct-13

Nothing seems to protect people from the government right now.from a dad accosted at a school board meeting and then turned into a villain to people denied the right to speak.

“it shows the audacity and pure evil gaul that they would suppress what ever they want based on their biased beliefs.”

Pure evil? Holy hyperbole. 
 

Private business equals rules to abide by, if you can’t do it then your content is removed, it’s pretty simple, it’s the same reasoning that I as a content creator can’t just use whatever footage and music I’d like in my video and monetize it, that’s copyright infringement, just a different rule but same theme.

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From: Showtalk

Oct-13

Then they need competition. If they won’t encourage it themselves, it must be done for them.

Jeri (azpaints)

From: Jeri (azpaints)

Oct-13

There is a ton of competition on the internet.  From reading, Delphi has competitors that are "any subject" and hundreds of specialized subject competitors.  The GSD  forum is an example.

What companies do you think need to be forced to have competitors?  

 

 

Youtube does have competition, albeit inferior competition in Vimeo (targeted at professionals) Dailymotion (targeted to time wasters) and TikTok (ten second internet sitcoms). In the case of Youtube, capitalism has clearly worked, one business model clearly rides above the rest with an enduring quality about it that retains it's market share.

WALTER784 said:

nothing will change that other than abolishing those corporations or removing the powers they have to circumvent the people's desires to post what ever they want.

I hear the Russians have a whole bunch of botnets for rent. And there are talented hacktivists. If some enterprising folk were to, say, unleash an effective attack on their servers to the point that irrepairable damage is done, and their whole thing is disrupted for a very, very long time, then would that level the playing field?

But more realistically, the Big Tech platforms can be brought down by attrition. People abandon the platform, and nibble away at it with assorted asymmetrical warfare. Throughout history, many vastly better financed and equipped superpowers have been eventually defeated by peoples who refused to ever submit, even at the expense of taking large numbers of casualties. Witness the Soviet experience in Afghanistan, then of course the US, and in the future, the Chinese.

Censorship is kind of like welding the safety valve shut on a boiler because those in charge are upset by the noise of the escaping steam. This is very effective, short term. If they also disable the pressure gauge, they placate the bosses who are sitting right next to that boiler.

Eventually the pressure will get relieved. with no safety valve and no turning down of the heat, the way it happens is quite spectacular. Search for footage of a BLEVE.

WALTER784

From: WALTER784

Oct-14

The_Rock (JABRONI256) said...

Private business equals rules to abide by, if you can’t do it then your content is removed, it’s pretty simple

But it's very unfair when that private entity biasedly removes information that is damning to one party while allowing information that is damning to the other party.

Or removing truthful information of one party while allowing misinformation to remain available for the other party.

They've turned into a politically biased group of evil people.

FWIW

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