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Jan-3

I agree. The dirty secret is most of the work is done by staffers, not politicians.

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Jan-13

Turley: Highly Inappropriate For FBI To Call Critics "Conspiracy Theorists Spreading Disinformation"

Posted By Tim Hains
On Date December 27, 2022

George Washington University law professor Jonathan Turley told FOX News on Monday evening that it is a "menacing thing" for the FBI to declare that "combatting disinformation" is one of its top priorities, and explained how Elon Musk revealed potential first amendment violations in the bureau's relationship with social media companies like Twitter.
 
Read more via The Hill: When the FBI attacks its critics as ‘conspiracy theorists,’ it’s time to reform the bureau
 
JONATHAN TURLEY, GWU: What’s interesting is that there is really a loss of space in the last few weeks for many of the censorship apologists that are in Congress and the media. For years, they denied there was any censorship, that there was any shadowbanning, there was any blacklist. All of that was just formally denied.
 
Because of Musk, we now know that all of that were lies. That, in fact, there was an extensive censorship system that was being directed in part by the FBI.
 
So, one of the questions that we have is whether Twitter became an agent of the FBI for purposes of the First Amendment. The First Amendment applies to the government, obviously, but it can also apply to agents of the government, people who are acting on the government’s behest. You now have the company itself saying, "Yeah, we did become an agent of the FBI. We were being directed by the FBI."
 
And that makes things tougher for people who have really struggled to tell the public there is nothing to see here.
 
One of the things that is most disturbing, quite frankly, is that, when these files came out, the FBI attacked many of us who were raising free speech concerns and called all of us collectively "conspiracy theorists spreading disinformation." It was highly inappropriate, because the FBI has said that combatting disinformation is one of its priorities. So, it is a very menacing thing when you have the largest law enforcement agency attacking free speech advocates.
 
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50 years ago when Watergate began, there was a bipartisan call for an investigation into the FBi and other agencies and their engagement in domestic politics. Eventually, there were also investigations into the CIA and foreign intelligence agencies, as part of what as called the Church Committee. Those investigations reformed all of these agencies, so what concerns me is there was this cacophany of voices back then, Republicans, Democrats, and most certainly the media, demanding these investigations. That cacophony has been replaced with crickets. It is complete silence. The media has another blackout on this story. Just like the Hunter Biden laptop, they are just refusing to cover what are now confirmed practices, like shadowbanning, censorship program in conjunction with the FBI, the fact that the FBi gave millions to Twitter to censor people. All of that has been blacked out.
 
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Well, we’ve learned some really chilling things in the last couple of years, perhaps most chilling is that you can have a state media without having censorship by coercion. You can have censorship by consent. Really the first amendment dealt with the classic censorship problem. Agencies silencing people. What we've seen in the last few years are social media companies working closely with man Democratic members demanding censorship of everything from opposing views on climate change to election fraud to many other subjects. The question is, at what point does that cooperation with he government violate the first amendment? And it does if there is this agency relationship. What's interesting with what Elon Musk has done... he has confirmed that the FBI paid social media companies to help them deal with what they called disinformation, which most of us call censorship. But also that they were in continuous communication, as were other agencies, targeting specific citizens and specific posters to be banned or suspended. That really does smack of an agency relationship and that could violate the first amendment.

Turley: Highly Inappropriate For FBI To Call Critics "Conspiracy Theorists Spreading Disinformation" | Video | RealClearPolitics

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Jan-13

After reading the above post, do you see anything similar to this post below?

Rachel Levine Demands Big Tech Companies Censor “Misinformation” About “Gender Affirming Care” For Children

By Cullen Linebarger
Published December 27, 2022 at 6:45pm

Department of Health and Human Services Assistant Secretary Rachel Levine is deeply worried that the truth of his demonic transgenderism agenda is reaching the general public. So like any good authoritarian, he proposes online censorship as a “cure” for ensuring his narrative goes unchallenged.
 
Philadelphia-area parental rights activist Megan Brock on Christmas Day uncovered a May 27 video of Levine speaking to the Federation of State Medical Boards in New Orleans via Zoom.  The contents of this video should be disturbing to all Americans.
 
Video:
 
Levine begins by talking about how health professionals “have a critical role to play” that goes “beyond COVID-19.”  This role is combatting “substantial misinformation” that is directly affecting the “health equity” of “sexual and gender minorities.”
 
He goes on to whine about “substantial misinformation” regarding so-called “gender affirming care.” Levine then expresses outrage at state governments protecting children from puberty blockers and gender reassignment surgeries.
 
“We are in this nation facing an onslaught of LGBTQIA+ actions at the state levels across the United States. And they are dangerous to the public health,” Levine says in the video.
 
Levine goes on to claim the “positive” value of “gender-affirming care” in children and adults is settled science. He then issues a clarion call for physicians to go to the public and spread his  propaganda.
 
“We all need to work together to get our voices out in the front lines. We need to get our voices in the public eye, says Levine. “And we know how effective our medical community can be talking to communities whether it’s at town halls, schools, conversations with others.”
 
Levine then closes by demanding the medical professionals carry out his orders to stifle online speech which contradicts his dangerous transgenderism lies. This is truly Orwellian stuff.
 
“We need to use of clinicians’ voice to collectively advocate for our tech companies to create a healthier, cleaner information environment,” says Levine. “During a moment where public trust in our leaders and our information is very challenged. The health care worker community, the medical community does I believe maintain a high degree of trust and we have to utilize that and we have to utilize it effectively.”
 
The Twitter files revealed the incredible lengths the Biden regime will go to destroy free speech in America. The doctors who questioned the establishment COVID narrative can fully attest to this.
 
Thankfully, Elon Musk now controls Twitter and has made free speech his top priority. But this still leaves Facebook, Google, Yahoo, and many others. The battle is far from over.
 
Conservatives must continue to indefatigably report on Levine’s sinister agenda and speak out on all platforms. The nation’s children depend on this.

Rachel Levine Demands Big Tech Companies Censor “Misinformation” About “Gender Affirming Care” For Children (thegatewaypundit.com)

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Jan-13

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Jan-13

When the people accusing others of misinformation are doing it based on their own misinformation the system is irrevocably broken.

WALTER784
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From: WALTER784

Jan-13

Yes, and our current system is irrevocably broken.

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From: WALTER784

Jan-18

Showtalk said...

When the people accusing others of misinformation are doing it based on their own misinformation the system is irrevocably broken.

Remember this?

The Many Lies the US Government Told About Roger Stone When They Accused Him of Lying to Congress

By Joe Hoft
Published December 30, 2022 at 8:45am

THE MYTH OF RUSSIAN COLLUSION- IT’S A FUGAZI !
 
Guest post by Roger Stone
 
With my improbable return to Twitter two weeks ago, I have been able to see firsthand the extraordinary damage done by four years of FBI-led, aggressive Internet censorship, and legacy media fakery. I was banned for life from Twitter in 2017, making me a pioneer in the platform’s censorship efforts recently exposed by new Twitter owner Elon Musk. I had 980,000 followers at the time I was banned. I thank Jesus Christ who I prayed to for reinstatement and Elon Musk for my restoration to the platform. If you are on Twitter you can follow me at @RogerJStoneJr. Of course, I am still on Truth Social at @RealRogerStone. I was happy to see the Gateway Pundit restored to Twitter as well.
 
While the prayers, response, and support I have received on Twitter since my reinstatement have been heartening, the number of Twitter trolls who accuse me of being a “Russian traitor” is significant. This is the direct result of the fact that I was unable to defend myself on social media, due to a constitutionally, questionable gag order imposed upon me by a federal judge, and by the warped coverage of the Soviet-style show trial, I was subjected to simply because I refused to testify falsely against Donald Trump. It’s also the result of a vicious Democrat/media cabal effort to distort the facts. These trolls always parrot the lies of corrupt biased media, unchallenged on censored social media sites like Twitter and Facebook as well as by Google. That’s a fugazi [messed up, broken, damaged beyond repair], as we used to say in New York.
 
Here are the facts:
 
Anyone who actually followed my trial would know the federal prosecutors provided no evidence whatsoever of Russian collusion with the Trump campaign at my trial. In fact, in pretrial motions, the government moved that they did not have to prove that there was any Russian collusion with the Trump campaign, or that the Democratic National Committee had, in fact, been the target of an online hack with the purloined data going to WikiLeaks in order to convict me.  The Judge granted their motion.
 
Those who actually followed my legal lynching in a DC Courtroom would also know the Judge denied my defense attorney a sealed report from the private company Crowdstike, retained by the DNC, that supposedly contained proof of this Russian hack. Only when the sworn testimony of Crowdstrike Head Shaun Henry ( conveniently a former deputy to Robert Mueller at the FBI) was declassified and released did we learn that Crowstrike had no proof whatsoever that the Russians conducted an online hack of the DNC. It was in my trial that the DOJ admitted that, for some strange reason, the FBI never inspected the DNC computer servers to detect whether there was an online hack. Given their role in directing the silencing of pro-Trump voices on Twitter we now see why.
 
I was convicted of “lying to congress” in my voluntary testimony to the House Intelligence Committee, despite the lack of any motive on my part to lie. There was no Russian collusion, or WikiLeaks collaboration to lie about. In fact, no misstatement that I made under oath was material or hid any underlying crime, never mind Russian collusion. The prosecutors provided no proof that I was a go-between for Wikileaks and the Trump campaign as the fake news media had more than speculated about or that I had any involvement in the timing of the devastating Wikileaks disclosures that rocked Hillary Clinton back on her heels. The idea that I was “covering up for Donald Trump ” as the Judge said in her sentencing tirade against me is false. There was nothing to cover up.
 
Even the much-hyped claim that my innocuous Twitter Direct Message exchange with the persona of Guccifer 2.0 who then CIA Director John Brennan and then FBI Director James Comey insist is a Russian intelligence asset, is flawed. The 28-word exchange itself is innocuous, it took place three months after WikiLeaks had already published the DNC material meaning my involvement would have been chronologically impossible and the insistence that Guccifer 2.0  is in fact, a Russian spy is contradicted by substantial evidence that he is a US intelligence created operative.
 
Even if he was a Russian hacker, my limited exchange with him provides no evidence that we coordinated or colluded in any way. I myself fully released our Twitter DM exchange, and I voluntarily turned it over to the House Intelligence Committee when I testified. It proves nothing. Nonetheless, when I was pardoned, Mueller attacked me i
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Jan-18

I remember.

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From: WALTER784

Jan-18

It's just another déjà vu instance (yet again) of the DNC in collusion with the FBI, DOJ and the DC Courts to falsely frame a Trump supporter over misinformation the DNC paid to have created!

But nobody has been held accountable thus far!!!

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Jan-20

EXCLUSIVE: Justice Department is concealing 400 pages of 'sensitive documents' laying bare payoffs and gifts to Hunter and Jim Biden from China, Russia and Ukraine - after acknowledging the records exist - lawyer claims in suit

Colorado lawyer Kevin Evans sued the Department of Justice in March after it failed to comply with his request for records on the Bidens' business dealings
Evans asked for documents under the Freedom of Information Act (FOIA)
He requested information regarding 'any relationship, communication, gift(s), and/or remuneration in any form' between Bidens and China, Russia or Ukraine
He said government lawyers first admitted in court to having at least 400 pages of 'potentially relevant' documents
Evans claims the DoJ are now trying to get away with saying they can 'neither confirm nor deny' the existence of any records that match his request

By JOSH BOSWELL FOR DAILYMAIL.COM
PUBLISHED: 16:56 GMT, 2 January 2023 | UPDATED: 20:35 GMT, 2 January 2023

The Department of Justice is trying to prevent disclosure of 400 pages of sensitive documents on Hunter and Jim Biden's dealings with China, Russia and Ukraine – by pretending they don't exist.
 
Colorado lawyer Kevin Evans sued the department in March after it failed to comply with his request for records on the Bidens' dealings under the Freedom of Information Act (FOIA).
 
Evans, a FOIA expert, asked for documents pertaining to 'any relationship, communication, gift(s), and/or remuneration in any form' between the president's son Hunter or brother Jim, and China, Russia or Ukraine.
 
He said government lawyers first admitted in court to having at least 400 pages of 'potentially relevant' documents – but are now trying to get away with saying they can 'neither confirm nor deny' the existence of any records that match his request.
 
The DoJ is trying to prevent disclosure of 400 pages of sensitive documents on Hunter and uncle Jim Biden's dealings with China, Russia and Ukraine, DailyMail.com can reveal
 
Colorado lawyer Kevin Evans sued the department in March after it failed to comply with his request for records on the Bidens dealings under the Freedom of Information Act (FOIA)
 
A Justice Department prosecutor, David Weiss, is currently considering a criminal case against Hunter with potential allegations of money laundering, illegal foreign lobbying and tax crimes in relation to the First Son's overseas business dealings.
 
The 400 pages are not the only cache of Biden records being sought from the government.
 
The National Archives and Records Administration is preparing to release hundreds of Obama White House internal documents containing information about Hunter's relationship with controversial Ukrainian gas company Burisma, Business Insider reported this month.
 
Joe Biden was vice president at the time, with responsibility for relations with Ukraine. His son was serving on the board of Burisma, getting paid $83,000 per month.
 
Biden's administration is able to veto the release, but must decide by February whether to invoke executive privilege to keep them hidden until 2029.
 
The records date back to 2014 and include 69 images and 260 email messages mentioning Burisma.
 
Evans' case has its next hearing in January.
 
The Greenwood Village, Colorado-based lawyer said he filed his FOIA request in November 2020 after reading about the Bidens' overseas business dealings, and the Justice Department strung him along for almost two years before he eventually sued them.
 
'They eventually produced about 60 pages of documents, but they're all letters from senators and congressmen asking about Hunter, and letters from DoJ back,' he said.
 
'Then towards the end of last year they said, ''well we have these 400 pages of potentially responsive documents, we need to review them.''
 
'In March I filed suit, and before Magistrate Judge Michael Hegarty they made the same representation: they've done a thorough search, they've uncovered 400 potentially responsive documents.'
 
Evans said in his suit that he filed his FOIA request in November 2020 after reading about the Bidens' overseas business dealings, and the Justice Department strung him along for almost two years before he eventually sued them
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