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Trump Fatigue   Futility Folder:Politics

Started Jul-2 by yotsubishi (ToraMori); 777 views.
Charlie6D

From: Charlie6D

Jul-3

ToraMori said...

 

It's a completely different dynamic in 2020.

There were 100,000 or so votes that Trump got in the swing states combined to get him elected in 2016. It was a significant EC victory for Trump, but by a small margin of votes spread over several states, and he lost the popular vote by a fairly big margin. And Hillary was a lot more polarizing than Biden.

Enough of those votes will go away in 2020. Especially from women. Enough of them just don't like him and want him to disappear like an irritating husband they divorced or want to divorce.

I don't see how Trump can turn this around by November.

Be prepared to protect your investments and assets. 

 

So you're saying that women who did NOT vote for Hillary, who, if elected, would have been the first woman president of the US, are going to have a change of heart and vote for Groper, Hair Sniffer, Child Fondler Joe???  Nope, I'm not buying that at all, and I don't think many women in this country are buying that either.  In 4 months we will find out which theory is correct. 

Charlie---------------------------------------------------------------------------------

You can do simulations at this site.  It doesn't take much to swing the electoral vote bigly one way or the other.

 

https://www.270towin.com/maps/consensus-2020-electoral-map-forecast

 

I think it's entirely possible for a lot of women in the handful of swing states to show buyer's remorse this time around. Especially if the virus keeps Trump's campaigning handcuffed.

That demographic didn't know him very well in 2016. Since then Trump has had almost all negative press and he has done things on his own to polarize that demographic against him.

garyt1957gt

From: garyt1957gt

Jul-3

ken1putt (kenoneputt) said:

Take Michigan for example. That loon of a governor may have given the state to Trump again.

I live in Michigan and voted for trump in 2016. I think Whitmer's done a pretty good job handling this virus (there were certainly some bumps along the way) and the numbers show it.  

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Art.. (ArtMBGolf)

From: Art.. (ArtMBGolf)

Jul-4

Trump gave a presidential speech and history lesson at Mount Rushmore on Friday night.   
 
Only Fox televised it.      The Gov of South Dakota is hot.      

Charlie6D

From: Charlie6D

Jul-4

Art.. (ArtMBGolf) said...

 

Trump gave a presidential speech and history lesson at Mount Rushmore on Friday night.   
 
Only Fox televised it.      The Gov of South Dakota is hot.      

 

 

I thought his speech was excellent.  It ran a bit too long (like many of Trump's speeches), but was excellent, IMO.

 

Question:  Since when does "freedom of speech" include trying to physically stop others from hearing speech that you disagree with?  (I don't mean "you" specifically, but "you" in general).  The left does this shit all the time.  Yesterday evening they tried to block the Trump motorcade from even getting to the site of the speech.

Charlie----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

j (Dustdevil8)

From: j (Dustdevil8)

Jul-4

As of this generation. I posted a thread in the other forum about my conversation about this with a young college student and a couple of people over there defended her. Used to, Liberals defended free speech with vigor. I guess that only applies if you're a Nazi or a pornographer. 

It's also become VERY unpleasant to come out as a Trump supporter in most of the purple/blue states. So people just stop talking politics if they don't toe the liberal line in those areas. I think there are LOTS of people unwilling to speak up for Trump who will vote for him.

Of course, there are also bags and bags of ballots that are going to pop up like candy in most of the blue states, just waiting to be completed and mailed. 

Charlie6D

From: Charlie6D

Jul-5

RocketsRedGlare (V65Saber) said...

 

You can do simulations at this site.  It doesn't take much to swing the electoral vote bigly one way or the other.

 

https://www.270towin.com/maps/consensus-2020-electoral-map-forecast

 

 

I think that everyone agrees that a small number of votes in strategic states can greatly affect the election.  Where the disagreement is is in how many voters are going to be swayed to change their vote or not vote at all in the next election compared to the previous election.

I happen to think that women voters who were likely to be swayed not to vote for Trump because of his mannerisms and his "grab 'em by the pussy" comments did NOT vote for him in 2016.  OTOH, I think that women (and men) who voted for Trump in 2016 are even more convinced to vote for him again in 2020. 

Trump has delivered on many/most of the things that he promised in 2016.  The Dems, OTOH, have been primarily obstructionists ever since Trump took office.  They want Americans to suffer so that they can blame it on Trump.  They support the rioting, looting, and burning because they think it looks bad on Trump.  Well, I think that MOST Americans are smart enough to figure out the score.  Just because some "poll" shows Biden in the lead today, doesn't mean shit, IMO.  There are many reasons why polls can be misleading.  The only poll that matters is on Nov 3rd, and I think that Trump will win that one unless the Dems figure out a way to steal the election.  I'm more concerned about the Dems stealing the election than I am about Trump "losing" the election fair and square.

Charlie-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Charlie6D

From: Charlie6D

Jul-5

Hardware Junkie (howardca) said...

 

It's also become VERY unpleasant to come out as a Trump supporter in most of the purple/blue states. So people just stop talking politics if they don't toe the liberal line in those areas. I think there are LOTS of people unwilling to speak up for Trump who will vote for him.

Of course, there are also bags and bags of ballots that are going to pop up like candy in most of the blue states, just waiting to be completed and mailed. 

 

AGREE completely!

Charlie---------------------------------------------------------------------------------

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