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Started 5/6/20 by Musivore; 59314 views.
Musivore

From: Musivore

6/12/20

Hey Lore, I've returned to find this beautiful emotive prose of yours, which reveals more the harder you look. I get a sense, just a small sense mind you, of what you were going through when you wrote that. And I hope things have settled since then for you, because none of us can feel as much as you did when you wrote that, for it to remain a healthy force in the long run for you.

But in the short run, if I had been placed in the sorrowful smoky landscape that you found yourself in, and if I had then sensed the same hazy and promising picture of relief and familiarity that you did during this heightened moment, I think I would then have reached out also, as you did. And I hope reaching out did indeed give you the familiarity and the respite that you so dearly needed.  And I hope also that you do not feel any less of a woman for making the choice that you did.

Thank you for being honest and sharing that with us so beautifully. I've not really been browsing much of the forum recently, as I've been herding my own demons elsewhere, but I hope things are a little more settled for you Lore.

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Elizaquits

From: Elizaquits

6/13/20

"...morally speaking, there is no limit to the concern one must feel for the suffering of human beings, that indifference to evil is worse than evil itself, that in a free society, some are guilty, but all are responsible."

                        --  Abraham Heschel 

Loreficent

From: Loreficent

6/13/20

In. A. Nutshell.

Smoking or not pales in ways, the struggle that we allow to ensue over it in the grand scheme, yes?

Let these moments empower us and realize...it is not a struggle but merely a choice that we have freedom to exercise and execute.

euknight

From: euknight

6/13/20

Thanks sweet Lore.

I like the crave/ cave identifier.  Aptly put. Wow, Seattle does bring a lot up for you!!!  Thank you for sharing all that which  is connected to your soul in that city.  I would be bothered a lot to see the unrest in a town I spent so much time in my past.  A lot of emotion no matter what kind,  is a trigger for me. So far moments of revelation have not been a problem and have been quite the opposite. Guess we all have to learn what the danger zones are for us.  The emotion around me I pick up on too....dang it!!  There is no way I could have stayed in that situation.  Even watching it on TV....cannot do it.  I am very sensitive.  My mother use to say I was too sensitive.  So be it.  I have a purpose because of it.

Even tho you didn’t hear the enemy whispering, be assured he was there.

I go back to the desire to stop has to be greater than to smoke.. When I feel this is questionable,  It is time to distract, retreat, run whatever like a wild banshee.  If I really want to smoke I am just going to.  Sometimes I wonder if I will be in this cocoon forever.  I have made some plans to venture out to a few social events but taking it slow.  I acknowledge my weakness readily

I will continue to think about lovely, admirable, honest and simple things.  All which generate peace.  It is my medicine.

Hoping you are in good spirits and ready to stay on the path with firm resolve and your heart is wrapped around the belief that you are so worth the fight.  We say you are;  so be strong.  Rest more, eat well.  You make a big difference in many lives.  Thanks for being here

Peggy

5-8-20

Loreficent

From: Loreficent

6/14/20

Ahhh...my dear Peggy...

I am so happy to hear from you, and you have completely made my day. First and out of the way, yes, I am still smoke free. I’m not sure how much more I want to analyze that several hours, but, I do agree with you there was likely the addict voice involved in that somehow, though it still is not apparent the play that was made. I would like to blame that little piece for sure! But it was such a detached day for my wiser self really, in a good way. I felt present and cognizant of pretty much everything and not panicked or angsty at all. So, perhaps, the enemy, as you call it, has a slyness that yet escapes my grasp and cognition. If that is the case, it won’t hide forever. 
Perhaps just Seattle in and of itself as a trigger and I reached for what I reached for when I lived there...smokes. I did feel a conscious “I’m gonna stop and get these and carry on” kind of thing with very little thought or feeling in addition other than an awareness of I knew it would be temporary. Who knows. Perhaps the addict part needed some closure. 
So...I’m gonna let it rest a bit and see what declares itself.

I think it is wonderful that you have your awareness and acceptance of your sensitivity. What a blessing, and yes, a curse, yes? And the beauty that emanates in you is a ray of sunshine from there to Portland for me. I am sad that you were told you were too sensitive. Not sure how comfortable you are with me expounding on that, so will hold back. I will ask though, do you think that smoking became a way to mask that? I have been reading about what is called Highly Sensitive People, as my daughter is one. I am close, but not quite.  There is actually quite a lot of research in that area lately. It previously is something that the Psychology world did not understand well initially. Now, my dear, it is increasingly recognized as gifted for a variety of reasons. One big one is the ability of intuition and capacity for empathy. Anyway...I do recognize the need for you to have space and peace and lower levels of external stimulation and noise in all of it’s forms, not just the audible. 
I have a need, an absolute and outright need, for a few hours each day of literal isolation from people. If my morning doesn’t start with it for the first hour I am not a good person to be around. So, I make it happen. Every single day. I also need this at night after dark. I wait for the dark and it is what always feels like a most welcoming part of the day, like I know I get to “come home” to myself and just be quiet with me. Usually I walk, and more so now than ever with not smoking and I love it. Now, don’t go thinking I am a vampire or something and have an aversion to sunshine as I love love love that too. Problem is...I don’t want to miss any of it.

Anyway..point is...I remain envious of where you live, out in the country. It sounds like it is the perfect place for you and I am happy you have that solace.

Gonna walk off now actually....I am very much wanting to hear more about the lovely, simple, admirable and honest things that are your medicine. 
Thank you for your sweet and loving acceptance Peggy. It makes me feel good for you to tell me I’m worth the fight. I’ll keep it up for sure. 
Know too that you help others and make a big difference too. I will be thinking about you.
 

DebraAnne60

From: DebraAnne60

6/14/20

so, in plain simple english, you smoked your brains out the other day

Loreficent

From: Loreficent

6/14/20

Yes, after 8 cigarettes, that day is a wash.

DebraAnne60

From: DebraAnne60

6/14/20

So do you just discount that one day or do you restart your quit?

SusanK1960

From: SusanK1960

6/14/20

Hi Lori,

I look at it this way, a slip is a brief return to an old behavior. Don’t think of a slip as a failure.  It is not the number of cigs smoked, but rather the mindset. As there is no further communication that you have chosen to continue smoking, I would say you are not the first one with a slip, nor will you be the last.  Hopefully, the slip only confirmed your commitment to quitting.  We are here to support you, without judgement, as only you will face the benefits or consequences of your choices.

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