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Started 5/6/20 by Musivore; 103223 views.
Musivore

From: Musivore

5/8/20

Omg Lori, so much for me to read, take in, learn from, giggle at, and delight in... I will stop there because I know my compliments can get incredibly sickly, if not to the recipient, then to anyone else who happens to read. Suffice to say, I pray that I can continue to be a Muse for you for a little longer, because I am finding you to be priceless.

What you describe about being detached during your cravings sounds like Mindfulness to me. I have attended a number of sessions for this through work, and absolutely loved the concept. You sit back, tap into your feelings, ride the wave, appreciate, try not to direct or interfere with those internal workings, and just become aware of the waves and sensations that make up our complex wholes. On the whole, the technique is used to relax and de-stress, and it definitely works (a little too well on my case, as I always ended up asleep and my subsequent snoring and dribbling didn't help others attending). What you describe sounds like that, and it will be interesting to try the same tactics for a craving, although I suspect it will be harder to ride that wave compared to my experiences of mindfulness in the past. Either way, I will write about it here.

And yeah, totally agree on all of what you say about survivalists and about their esteemed leader. It does actually concern me when I see a big baby stand up and represent the leading country of the free world. I didn't always know whether to laugh or cry when I used to tune in to the daily briefings that are now no longer, after bleachgate. But I'm reluctant to go there on here, as I am less informed than you guys, plus people in glasshouses need to keep their heads down and concentrate on staying out of trouble, and continuing to keep the smoking beasts at bay.

Musivore

From: Musivore

5/8/20

These links Lori - did you have to donate to access? That is a strange thing to have to do for what claims to be a free site?

Loreficent

From: Loreficent

5/8/20

No, I didn’t...yes, it’s odd. I don’t know much about what it takes to keep a website up. That is for people whose minds are more technical than my wandering mess of neurons. I often feel a twinge of guilt when I don’t donate something and I’m reaping some pleasure of someone else’s hard work. I guess I could donate what I would have spent on smokes today even. 
More in a bit! Catching my breath from an over 2 hour walk. Ahhhh!

Musivore

From: Musivore

5/8/20

No, I wasn't asking you to donate. Just letting you know that I was being asked to, I think, before proceeding. I will try again now anyways...

Musivore

From: Musivore

5/8/20

Ok, sat that lesson you mention now Lori. It made me want to smoke. But I like his idea and am willing to see what happens if I ride the moment and try to de-power it. 

Like I said, I'll let you know how it goes. Looking forward to you doing the same at some point. And if it works, we can start a thread for this, if it hasn't been started before?

Loreficent

From: Loreficent

5/8/20

No...it did?? Well that I’m sure is an unintended side effect! Wait...Didn’t you already want to smoke?? I often want to, but the depth of the desire is less. Not sure if that makes sense. I believe it is what is called romancing the cigarette. Let me find that Dear John letter for you...

Loreficent

From: Loreficent

5/8/20

Oh I didn’t take it as you were asking me to donate. I thought the same thing last night when I got to that part and felt a slight bit bad for not doing so. Of course I forgot about that part of the site and then felt bad forwarding something to you that asked for donations.

The beauty of this is we get to entertain and encourage each other for free! 

Loreficent

From: Loreficent

5/8/20

Ahhh...you are kind. I’ll try to take the compliments gracefully and just say thank you. You are funny too; try to be my muse a little longer. Well, I guess in a way you are as I said you have inspired me to write.

You crack me up! I got a visual of you sitting in the class snoring and dribbling! Oh I would have had me some fun with that in the class for sure. Yes, it is like mindfulness. Being detached and observing and mindful of the feeling of missing smoking. The moments I have where I feel like I actually miss it are pretty fleeting. I had one slip early on and it messed with my head. I felt pretty badly about it. Only smoked part of one. It hurt too. I was amazed at how it felt in my throat! That part actually inspired me cause I took it as something in my throat must have healed some as it had not been painful to smoke before I quit. 
Were you a heavy smoker? 
I think I’ve written replies to you in a reverse order...seems to go with my somewhat backward style.
 

Musivore

From: Musivore

5/8/20

Your replies are not backward, you are just prioritising in a way that makes total sense to me.

Yes, you are right, those moments are pretty fleeting when we look carefully and stalk these urges, like the hunters we are now trying to be. We are both at an advanced stage in quitting, so it is understandable that our urges are no longer frequent and intense. And there is truth in what your course guy says: it is the fear of these urges, and our mishandling of them, that keeps us so preoccupied and so frightened and so in awe of the quitting process. And perhaps by de-mystifying the cravings, we can gain the upper hand in this long and arduous war?

Loreficent

From: Loreficent

5/8/20

Yes, I think it does demystify them a bit to be a spectator instead of letting myself be drawn into the drama of participating. You’re funny Shak...calling him my course guy. I’ll add him in to my repertoire of men in my closet, haha. 
The reason that site resonates with me is my withdrawal has been so mental. I’ve only had a couple of truly physical craves that cause a edgy nervous feeling and tightness in my gut. I know when it comes down to it  quitting is mostly mental. Especially for me as I am using the patch so am still getting nicotine, albeit the stepped down version. I did notice quite a bit the first few days that I stepped down the dose on the patch. Have managed to keep weight stable which I’m happy about too. At 5 feet tall I cannot afford too many extra pounds. It just doesn’t spread out the same as on a taller person. In my next life the plan is to be a 6 foot Redhead. Still a woman, but tall. Then I can eat a lot more ice cream.
I love the analogy of us now being the Hunters. My dad and brothers were hunters. Out of necessity mainly. It was interesting watching my father get older and all the kids being grown and him not needing to be the provider as much. He really grew into a dislike for hunting. Which is probably good as 2 of his kids went on to be vegetarian. I digress again. 
I love what you wrote about it being a lovely day for your family. Is your wife enjoying being a non smoker? Is it easier for her than you do you think? 
We don’t have VE Day here. Heck, at work last year I pointed out that it was D-Day and all the younguns looked at me with this blank kind of stare and one of them had the courage to ask “what’s that?” Yup. Same Populist crowd that feels they are being screwed by the system. Never mind all the Elders that went to bat for things...I am fairly patriotic and get annoyed at those that confuse patriotism with their rights. Funny cause I’m also considered quite leftist and people can’t seem to understand that you can definitely be both. Now how the hell did I get here? Oh, must have just had my after dinner smoke in the form of writing. Yay! 
I’m going to go on YouTube and check out that band you mentioned...have the feeling they are a bit punk. Am I right?

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