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Oh Anthony, they are so beautiful! They make me feel peaceful just looking at them, and thank you. When I look back on this (successful for both of us!!!) quit, I will think of your photos. They really do help.
5000 steps isn't bad at all, especially for someone who's waiting for an op! You really are putting everything in place for a good recovery, and that is wonderful.
Glad you had another smoke-free day, and yippee all round. Let's keep plodding on - we're doing well. And thanks for the kind words about my limited ability on the guitar - you're right, you can play a lot with three chords (Status Quo made a whole career out of it), but it still depends on whether you get the chords right. Some of mine are still a bit, well, discordant. But I'm keeping going, with that and the quit.
Take care, Anthony, and thank you again for the photos. I bet they're helping loads of other people too.
How has your day been? I’m glad to hear things have been a bit better with your son - and yes I think you’re right that, as with quitting smoking, staying in the moment is the best way. That’s another thing I like about cold water swimming - while you’re in it’s so freezing you can’t think about anything else!
It’s really understandable to be irritable and shall we say forthright in the early weeks / months of your quit, especially when you step down the nrt. Anyone in nicotine withdrawal feels and acts that way. Just see it as showing how much of a hold the smoking has had on you up til now - it’s only when we remove the cigarettes we really are faced with the reality of our little ‘habit’. Soon you will be free from all that and a much calmer, saner you will emerge.
And great you’re feeling ready to come off the lozenges and hopefully the gum soon too. I totally know what you mean about feeling irritable and calmer too - it sounds like old Nic stamping his foot and the real you being happy breaking free!
I liked the patches because you can just put it on at the start of the day and forget about it. And when you step the dose down you’re still just sticking on one patch, so psychologically doesn’t feel like cutting down anything.
Sounds like you’re champing at the bit to be completely off the nicotine. I really think you’re going to love it Suzy!
Oh as for radio recommendations - I’ve really enjoyed Between Ourselves with Marion Keyes - a lovely Irish writer chatting to the presenter and reading some excerpts, really funny - I think you’d like it. I also love Elvenquest - a fantasy spoof with Alastair McGowan playing a truly inspired slightly camp baddie. Oh and Ed Reardon’s week always makes me chuckle - could be a good one if you’re feeling grumpy and want company ;)
Your boat pottering sound like such a nice project to be getting on with. Speaking of horseshoe buoys, do seahorses have horseshoes?
You’re so right that everyone is just muddling through - must remember that! I think with lockdown and not seeing people much I tend to imagine everyone is doing way better than me. Just a daft brain tendency.
ok this message is v long so I’ll say bye for now!
Speak soon Suzy,
Quit 4th March 2017
Thanks for your warm message :)
Yes our ‘temporary’ ash trays - so truly awful and yet so amazing how we close our mind to how grim they are.
How long have you been quit and how are you finding it at the moment?
Yes it’s lovely exploring nature in the park with my daughter. Lots of woofing, quacking and cooing from all parties! She’s 20 months so still just a wee nipper :) Find it hard to believe she’ll be 18 one day! Are you and your daughter close?
I haven’t really seen my family (sister and parents) this past year with lockdown. My poor mum has been so sad to miss this part of her granddaughter’s life, and we’ve really missed that extra support. Luckily our lockdown is easing a bit from Monday so my parents are coming for a garden lunch next weekend. Were you a single mum raising your daughter? I can’t imagine how tough that must be. A major silver lining of lockdown has been my husband getting to spend so much more time with our daughter. It’s funny when she goes to nursery we stay at home to work - it feels like our daughter is the one going to the office, ha!
How has the pandemic/lockdown etc been for you?
Hope you’re having a great weekend:)
Quit 4th March 2017
Yikes sharks!! I’m absolutely terrified of sharks (thanks to watching Jaws when I was too young) and sometimes can spook myself in a swimming pool.
Great you’re in safe hands for your op and feeling calm about it all. Will you be laid up for long after or do they encourage you to get moving again?
Did you go to a lower dose patch? Hope it’s not felt too different if so. Just keep reminding yourself you’re shutting down those nicotine receptors, shutting the door on old Nic yeehah!
Good for you playing the guitar. I’ve been doing crosswords and watching snooker to chill out today. Very rock n roll ;)
Take care Anthony,
Quit 4th March 2017
Haha - forthright. That's such a nice way of putting it. I could also say that I've been assertive with a bit of an edge, or bossy but I generally mean well. Or shrieking, but sort of sensible sometimes? I'm still really looking forward to calming down, though! It's lucky Mike is level-headed: he is literally impossible to pick a fight with (which used to be infuriating in itself, but I really value it now). If I rant, he acknowledges how I'm feeling and asks what I think will help. It's a bit humbling though (and still infuriating sometimes!) - I'm the one who's supposed to know about communication skills after all. Well, pah! Double pah and grrrrr!
I do think the Full Moon (tomorrow) might have something to do with it too. Since I started going through the menopause I've tried to keep track of any patterns with my mood, and I do seem to be madder and badder around this time of the month. So I suppose this too shall pass. My GP gave me hormone replacement pills, but I'm slightly scared of taking them as they seem to make me feel really hyper, and then I tend to drink too much. Maybe I should just try to grow old gracefully, but at the same time I don't feel quite ready to give up on relative youth just yet. Ageing is a very interesting thing. I didn't even think of it until quite recently - I used to view 'old people' as a sort of grey, amorphous mass that I had nothing in common with at all - but the closer I get the more important and perfect it seems! Funny, that.
I haven't done very well as regards NRT. I felt unassailable yesterday, but as I think I said to Lore, pride comes before a fall. Today was a real struggle (at least till I logged onto the forum earlier this evening) and I went and bought more lozenges - I just didn't trust myself to stay smoke-free without them. At the rate I'm eating them, though, they'll probably be gone by the morning :( It's not quite that bad, but I feel much calmer knowing that I have them, poor nicotine addict that I am. I am not smoking, and that's the main thing. And I like it, I really do - I feel so much better, mentally and physically. But if I'm totally honest, I am still disappointed in myself about the lozenges. I thought I could be freer sooner.
Thank you for the radio recommendations. I've heard of Marian Keyes (I remember liking one of her books, Sushi for Beginners) but all the rest are new to me. I will investigate tomorrow!
I think seahorses definitely have horseshoes! There is a bit of a blank space on the left hand side because I had to write SEA on one side of the support bracket and HORSE on the other. I was looking into small seahorse logos to fill the gap, but I was looking in the wrong place - a horseshoe it is, and when we're on the high seas I will look at it and think of you, and remember that smoking is the opposite of life-saving. I will try to upload a photo tomorrow.
I'm doing great (well, after a bit of a wobble) - and so are you.
Thanks Suzy, your welcome, your appreciation will motivate me to take some more, I enjoy taking them, who knows what God is going to serve up no two days are alike.
Walked to Church this morning and back, another 5000 steps, it was so quiet in our street you could have heard a pin drop, a change to what it used to be.
It's great we are getting on with our quits, I can't wait for the after op recovery to see how my new hip performs, it will be such a relief to be rid of this pain and get off the meds. Then I will be able to appreciate this quit for what it is liberation from bondage.
Great you are learning guitar, There's something very satisfying about learning a new song and mastering the instrument and making a joyful noise, LOL
Take care Suzy
Yes Sharks! I admit they put the wind up me also, but I don't go in the water much, its got to be hot, you see I'm not much of a swimmer, brought up in the country miles away from a swimming pool, I can't believe I never learnt to swim freestyle when I was a kid, oh well, I went to our local pool for a while in Spring of last year to try to learn, but the classes were that expensive, so I tried teaching myself but I ran out of puff literally, I think I swallowed more than I should, I gave it away and stuck to walking.
Two - Five Days in Hospital, they don't keep you long and your up and moving if not on the day of the op the very next day, so I am looking forward to the challenge.
I went down to the 14mg patch on Friday, I am now on my third day, I was a bit edgy at first but now it seems to have settled down, thank goodness, I cant wait to get this nicotine out of my system.
Good on you with the crosswords, I used to watch Eddy Charlton play on TV, Pot Black I think the series was called, I used to play to at the local Ex-Serviceman's Club, it was fun.
Well must go and get myself some lunch, the pangs from the nether region are calling.
Take care Katy
Good evening Suzy!
Yes...a dressing gown day! Not often, but once in a while is good tonic for the mind and soul. Right! Fun to have someone half around the world to share it with too! I think you are 8 hours ahead of me? Yes, I’m in Portland, Oregon. Yes, it is close to Seattle, about a 3 hour drive. I lived in Seattle for 10 years and went to University there. It’s a wonderful city! I’m happy you got to visit. It’s changed a ton since then. That is back at the height of Grunge Era for music. Where you there for a bit? What time of year? Portland is a very similar city in many ways. There was much more foresight and planning that went into Portland as opposed to Seattle and the city proper has had very strict urban growth boundaries from much earlier on than Seattle did. The mass transit here was also quite a bit further ahead in planning and implementation over Seattle as well. Seattle has caught up quite well with transportation, but, is still trying to play catch up with the urban sprawl, which, in many ways cannot be done really, and it has really detracted from the city in many ways in my opinion. Still, if one can afford to live in Seattle proper, it is very lovely and there is no need for a car at all. Portland does get a bit colder in Winter and hotter in Summer than Seattle as well. My stepson lives in Seattle so I’m still there every couple of months and will always love it, but, Portland is definitely more livable for me.
That is probably way more than you cared to hear!
Ive got a pleasant interruption that I’m going to tend to and will write more soon!
Ok, back now... So...the moon plays with things for you? I think there is something to that. It seems to have an effect on lots of folks.
For the NRT though, I agree with you. You’re not smoking and that’s the focus. Do you go down in doses on the lozenge like the patch? It sounds like you have many wonderful things to not only distract yourself now, but that will be there for some time, like your guitar and boat, and those will be things that you will enjoy more thoroughly in so many ways when not also dealing with the distraction of “where and when is my next fix”, right? And it’s wonderful too that Mike is supportive and encouraging. Wise too from the sounds of it as he knew enough that you would have to come to terms with it on your own.
Ive got to be off now and get to bed. I hope your Sunday is calm and relaxing Suzy! And if not...well, get yourself some more lozenges or gum and know that soon things will turn. No need to focus on being disappointed in yourself about that. Focus on the other positive things you already spoke to noticing. The NRT will work itself out.
Oh, that will be wonderful to have the garden lunch with your folks! I’m sure they are beside themselves looking forward to it.
Thank you for sharing your story Katie, and I will write more properly tomorrow as I had intended to tonight, but I’m out of time for now unfortunately. Will fill you in on the things you asked very soon.
Mmm...yes she will be 18 one day, and it will still be grand, I promise! For now...wow...20 months is a very busy and demanding age, and oh such great fun! I’m surprised you have the time to write and give all you do here, but is sure is wonderful for us!
Hope your Sunday is the best!
Mike sounds like a brick - just what you need to keep your anchored in your quit. Has he ever been a smoker (I’m assuming he doesn’t smoke now)? Quitting is the best thing you can do for yourself and your relationships, it means you can prioritise what really matters to you rather than having part of your mind thinking about smoking.
Re the NRT - please don’t beat yourself up about the lozenges. Absolutely the most important thing is that you’re not smoking and taking all those horrendous chemicals into your body. I was thinking though maybe it would help if you had a more structured plan for tapering the nrt, not something you’d have to stick to rigidly but so it’s not completely dependent on how you feel day to day? Otherwise you can sort of end up doing a quit within a quit, which could get pretty tiring. And you’re doing BRILLIANTLY in your quit, it doesn’t seem right you should be disappointed with yourself about the nrt.
I was on patches for 8-10 weeks I think, and used the inhalator on top of that for the first few weeks. I got some stop smoking support through my gp surgery and they made the plan with me on calendar. It just helped to take some of the decision-making out of it.
Hope it doesn’t sound like I’m telling you what to do! Everyone’s quit journey if different and it’s important to do what works for you. It was just a thought I had as an ‘outsider’ perspective.
Ooh I’m honoured the shoe horse will become part of the boat artwork :) would love to see a pic!
I also have so little concept of what it means to age, and what the menopause actually entails! It’s kind of bizarre how little attention it all gets in mainstream arts/media etc. I’m sorry the hrt has had its downsides for you. Are there other options you could try?
We’re having a bit of a hard day as our daughter is a bit poorly - I think it’s the after effects of her MMR booster she had the other day, poor thing. Had quite a disrupted night, and the clocks changing hasn’t helped. Hey Ho, I’m sure she’ll bounce back in a day or two.
My local lido reopens tomorrow - I cannot wait to feel that cold water on my skin!
Wishing you a lovely weekend Suzy!
4th March 2017