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June 2020 Ex-Smokers    Quit Buddies Unite

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Loreficent

From: Loreficent

Aug-25

Hey Tiny,

I read this when I was waiting for the kids and it reminded of a meal I had once. I was driving back to Seattle, had visited my folks in Michigan. Anyway, later September and was taking I-90. So beautiful. Well there were State Troopers on the highway turning everyone back as there had been this huge snow fall and Bozeman Pass was closed. So I turned around and went back to not even sure what town now. Got a room for the night. Was snow there too but not as bad. There was a restaurant that I don’t recall the name but they had a variety of foods on the menu from different cultures. So I ordered this bowl of Thai soup. I love Thai food. Love it. Have eaten it in every major city I’ve lived in or visited here in the US, which are quite a few at this point. You know what? To this very day that was the BEST  Thai soup I’ve had!! Yup. Right there in some smaller Montana town and not even at an official Thai restaurant. Now maybe it’s a case of same with taste as “beauty is in the eye of the beholder”, but that soup was sooo good. This was in like 1990 or 1991, and I still remember it fondly. So...there you go. If I ever remember where I was I’d definitely stop again except I’m not sure when the next time is I’ll be that way driving across country again, if ever.

You are funny what you said about your sister! Here, we used to call it “granola” too, but now we say “crunchy “. I’m pretty crunchy as are most of my friends and we never take it as a slight to be called it, we just agree. So she likely doesn’t mind if you call her that, right? I also think it is very sweet and endearing that you were enamored of Bipoc folks on your bus trip. We could all do with a little inquisitiveness and a sense of being enamored to meet folks that look differently or dress differently from us. 
One question here for you gals...what the heck is Glamping?  
 

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TinyBadger

From: TinyBadger

Aug-25

It kind of depends on your definitions. There are hike thrus, people who back pack and hike in an effort to get somewhere, usually a long distance. Then there are regular hikers who camp. Then there are campers, you know, eating sandwich type food or canned beans kinda thing. They stay in one spot and set up an area for chilling. There is car camping, when you put your cooler and chairs and whatever into your car and park somewhere to camp. Usually around a lake or a campground. Glamping to my friends is using a generator, an RV or 5 th wheel, using things like electric coffee pots and other devices like microwaves, sleeping in your car on an air mattress when the weather is fine, only camping places with flushing toilets., etc. It's pretty much like I want to be outside but I want to be home. No offense to anyone here, but my friends and I do find it funny when someone can't dig a hole and poop in it. Some people are too squeamish to use a vault toilet, even. I'd rather not squat over a hole but I'll do it when I need to. That's the joy of the outdoors! As to Bozeman, my sister went to college there and I would spend my summers in Bozeman with her. It was so much fun! The people are great and the mountains are gorgeous. Our dog is going to see a dermatologist there in about a month and we are excited to go. I highly recommend going there again, if you have the chance. I'm glad the soup was good! I was reading your note thinking about how badly this was going to end but I'm impressed! Thai, go figure! 

Loreficent

From: Loreficent

Aug-25

I know! Like I said it was the best Thai soup of that sort I’ve had to this day and that was some time and many bowls ago. How far are you from Bozeman to drive it? It is beautiful there. I want to take my daughter to Glacier and Yellowstone. She was in Yellowstone right when she was first learning to walk and called the Bison “Doggy!” It was pretty cute. Doggy was her very first word and I loved that. I’ve been to there a few times. Camped in a tent spot mid September in 2008 and the Elk bugling was so worth freezing my butt off over! Pat went with me that trip and we had such a beautiful time.

Ok...so no offense intended here either...but if that is what Glamping is I can’t stand it and can’t stand being stuck with a tent site anywhere near it. Why bother is how I feel about that. I’m not much for car camping either but it was easier when my daughter was small. Now she likes it how I do where you gotta hike in a bit and then pack it all out again.  I’m the one who will dig a hole if needed any time rather than go in a pit toilet too and will pee anywhere needed as long as there isn’t poisonous plants! Haha! Also don’t feel showers are necessary if only out there for 4-5 days. Just find a river or lake and swim the crud off. No soap though as it attracts bugs. That is way TMI!! But like I said...crunchy is my style. 
Man...now I’m wanting to head out! We stayed at a hotel at the beach the last couple of nights which was a total luxury splurge and I’ve never stayed at a hotel at the Ocean. There is no “legal” sleeping on the beach here, but...there are plenty of ways around that and generally the folks who do it are very respectful and pack everything out. 
I might be interested in that coffee pot you talked about before your trip but can’t find what you called it? 
 

TinyBadger

From: TinyBadger

Aug-26

Glamping isn't totally my gig but I admit I've done it. I have never slept in an RV or 5th wheel, but I have a friend with a battery powered curling iron and we tease her relentlessly. If you're just gal paling around it serves it's purposes. I'm about 1 hour and change from Bozeman depending on the route. As far as bigger cities go, it's my favorite. There's a restaurant called 5 on black. It's basically a build your own bowl if Brazilian is your gig. You get lots of choices, mostly vegetarian, and the portions are huge and everything is from scratch. Delicious. They have one in a few cities round here. The thing I love is called a jet boil. It boils water in about 90 seconds and is amazing. Great for oatmeal, tea and dehydrated meals. Soups and rice too. They have a ton of different products for packing and cooking in the outdoors. I don't drink coffee but my husband boils water in the jet boil and then uses the aeropress. He likes the aeropress so much he makes coffee at home with it sometimes. He loves bones brand coffee, too. If you look it up on YouTube, don't be discouraged beause some nerdy people have some pretty crazy ways of using the aeropress to make a brew. Jet boils aren't the cheapest thing out there but they've never failed us. Nothing better than coffee and cooking in the rain. Screw building up a fire for a cup of joe, especially if you plan on hiking. They also have connection tubes to hook to other outdoor cooking devices. I'm a walking advertisement, sheesh! I do not bathe when camping unless we go swimming. I don't mind and neither does my husband. That's half the fun- adventuring in your own filth. We honeymooned in glacier, and we go there every year. Usually at the very beginning or end of the season., It's less busy then. That's gods country, right there. I hear that Yellowstone has a week where it's only open to cyclists and it's pretty neat to get that close to nature without a million cars. But glacier is more my gig. Also, there is this tiny town a little way away from glacier called Somers. It's got one cafe and a couple of bars. Great fresh fish. It's right on flathead lake and it's gorgeous. Sometimes we rent a cabin there as a homebase then head to glacier. I feel like 90 percent of people would get some peace from spending even one night in the outdoors. Even car camping is good for the soul. Or.go to a park, sit in the sun and read. Or maybe go to an outdoor BBQ. Outside is great for anxiety and depression, stress and mood. I speak from experience.

Loreficent

From: Loreficent

Aug-27

Well, now I think I’ve heard it all. Battery powered curling iron? Not sure even what one could do with that as an “off label” use. Start a fire in a tight spot maybe? Doubt it gets hot enough. Stick it in a cup of water and heat the water for tea? Probably not hot enough for that either. Probably couldn’t even light a smoke with it if I still smoked. For me it would be useless and another gadget to end up in a landfill some day like 90% of the crap made. To each their own as they say! 
That restaurant sounds fabulous but surprises me almost all veg and Brazilian to boot. I’d definitely give it a go if I ever get there. Only Brazilian restaurants I’ve seen are places with pretty much all meat dishes. 
I don’t go without my coffee ever. Not anywhere. Think I’ll put that little stove on my wishlist. The one I have is pretty old and this one looks lighter and more efficient. One of my colleagues uses an Aeropress every day at work. Works great. 
I agree Tiny. The outdoors is good for the soul and anxiety and depression and I would say anything that ails one. Only been to Glacier once, and yes, definitely god’s country. Will you be going this year? It’s about a 13 hour drive for me. Our National Parks are treasures for sure. Olympic National Park is what brought me West. Did a report on it in 4th grade and told myself and my momma then that I was gonna live near there for at least 6 months of my life. She said “make it happen”. Ended up 10 years where I could see the Olympic Range every day the sky was clear, and even not so clear across the Sound.  Many many hikes and lots of camping there. It may well be god’s brother’s country. 
Will never forget the first time I saw a Banana Slug. Would make you and X run screaming for sure if you think those 3 inch cockroaches are something...

Have a great smoke free day. You and Hubby are a force to be reckoned with in this Quit and I’m very very proud of you. Have really been enjoying reading of your adventures and tribulations.

xvaper

From: xvaper

Aug-27

Hi Tiny,

Thank you for sharing your experience. I decided to tell my friend upstate, the one I am going to spend a few days with, to refuse to give me a cigarette if I falter and ask for one..just to be safe. I have been busy the last couple of days which really helps, I have no time for cravings! 58 Days!!!

I't like 92 degrees here today I am not leaving the A/C for one second.

xvaper

From: xvaper

Aug-27

That is inspiring. And a cautionary tale. You learned your lesson and you seem to really be firm on NOPE.

xvaper

From: xvaper

Aug-27

I never thought of it that way, only after I quit and started reading all the scientific papers, and going on this board. That is why Lori and I agree, we can never be none smokers, the same way a Heroin addict can never be none addict. It's scary but it's the only way to success. Some people can smoke one, then not another for months, I know them. I do not know why their brains are wired differently, but it doesn't matter because mine does not work that way.

xvaper

From: xvaper

Aug-27

WHAT!!!??

Glamping is for princesses like me, who would never go on a regular camping ( self deprecating here..)

Toilette, showers, stylish tents or huts.. to my defense, I grew up I was forced to go on school camping every year, and I hated it.

We made our own tents from old army blankets, stones, ropes and stakes. We ate canned food, and there were no showers or tiolette for a week. I am scarred for life!

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Loreficent

From: Loreficent

Aug-27

Haha! 
Yeah I’ve done my share of grunge camping for sure. Still do it except now I call it “Grunge Luxury”. The equipment made nowadays is amazing and if you come out and go with me and give it a go I promise you will heal some of that scarring and not be disappointed. Two things: we would eat simple (but good) and you have to potty outside. Other than that...you will be completely comfortable and warm at night all while carrying everything we need in. Just ordered that Jetboil thing to take down near Crater Lake next month. Want to come??

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