I've never had oat milk. Never even heard of it. Most of the options here are similar to rice dream or silk. I imagine it must be hard to have issues with lactose or be vegan in more rural communities. We grow a lot of meat round these parts.

How rural are we talking here?  :)

It is a shame you don't have more choices over there. I order my oat milk from Califia Farms directly, it is cheaper for me to buy a pack instead of at the grocery each time. If you ever want to try it, only Califia Farms and Oatly are the good ones...

Well, everyone was sad when Kmart went away rural. On the bright side a Walmart popped up nearby so that's good. I've only been in there a few times as I typically shop local and have feelings about the company as a whole. I'm seriously going to try this oat milk thing. Is there oat milk ice cream? That sounds nice, as I do love oats. Not the instant fruit garbage, the good stuff. Steel cut. I've been experimenting in granola making. My husband is very active and breakfasts don't fill him but he's taken up yogurt and granola. It sounds silly but I've always had a sensitive stomach and when I would stay in Bozeman with my sister over the summers she would worry about it. She got me started on brown cow yogurt (whole milk) which is definitely not good for the waistline. I only have one a month at most, just when my stomach hurts. I'm sure at this point it's all in my head, but I always keep one in the fridge in case of emergency. Honestly, the ties it has to my sister probably make it "work". But I'm willing to accept that and buy a yogurt a month because I don't eat much for ice cream and it's a nice treat. I can't figure out what I did to hurt my back but it's killing me. I've been icing and sitting with pillows under my legs like the internet says to do. I keep forgetting I don't smoke today, I'll finish something and think, ok I'll go have a moke. Or at lunch I almost went to the convenience store, not because I had the urge but because I thought it was time to smoke. So weird. How's your quit going? You still holding strong?

Hi Tiny,

Yesterday was difficult. I had really. bad cravings but I did not smoke. I was disappointed with something that happened and that is what triggered it. Then I watched one of Chris Skoyles' "emergency videos"  on youtube. At first I was still craving and thinking about going to get some while he was talking. but after a little while of watching it subsided and I went to bed early.

Oatley makes very good icecream. I don't think the yogurt is doing anything for you to be honest..Have you seen a Gastrologist?

Back ache can often be connected to stress. Have. you tried light exercise? Gentle movements and stretching?

Stay strong!

I'm so glad you made it through. I have high hopes for you because you seem very committed and proactive about smoking triggers. Your reactions are also great because you seem to know what to do to get through it. I am definitely going to seek out this oatley stuff. I didn't figure the yogurt was doing much. I work for a hospital in a smaller community so I work with doctors during the day. We only have a couple gastros and I admit I'm a little shy about seeing them because I know them. I have to take my dog out of town to the dermatologist on the 5th of October, so maybe I'll see if I can get in at the neighboring city on that date. Don't worry, my husband will be there do Osiris won't be left in a car. Ive always had a temperamental digestive system, but it really went haywire after I got my gallbladder out in November. It really changed the way I eat. It's kind of been a blessing, but it sure sucks for eating out and travelling. I have about 30 minutes after I eat something disagreeable before my cup runneth over, if you catch my drift. I made the mistake of chicken strips once and only once. I have had to give up cruciferous vegetables, most dairy, anything breaded or fried, red meat, rice except wild, some breads, almost all baked goods, sweetened drinks, just to name a few. I do sneak a nip of something "bad" from time to time but I make sure I'm at home near a bathroom. Restaurants are terrible for me, so we don't eat out often, even before covid-19. I thought it was just me but one of the ladies at work has a similar problem. My surgeon says for some people it wears off with time and some people have to drastically change their diets permanently. I take chloestyramine often to settle things down. Gosh, isn't talking about poop fun? Hahaha 

Ha!  Yea I think you should see someone,  you. never know perhaps there are other things you can do to improve it. On the plus side, it looks like your diet became much healthier..

I probably should. Man, I miss grilled cheese sandwiches. I dream about them...

So I'm very worried. I've been using the 2 mg lozenges and my gums have been sore in the area where I park it. I was reading the instructions and by this time I'm supposed to be having one every 8 hours or so. I'm having three to four a day. Not so good. I had only one yesterday morning and did ok. I thought I'd go without it today but was so uncomfortable that I popped one like a weakling. I'm going to do my best to not have any more today, just use my Lifesavers. 

So...I view that as popped one like a strong quitter. You made a choice that was better than smoking and that is not weak. Just depends on how to look at things I guess. 
I will say that I probably have lozenges left as they seemed to bother my mouth too. I found the gum to be not so irritating where it was parked. So every 8 hours would be 3 a day still so I don’t think you are too overboard. Trying to be supportive and encouraging here...You got this Tiny. 
Is X on her trip? Can’t remember when she was going. 
Have a good strong afternoon Tiny. Soon you will be off work and you can cuddle your pups and let it all go. 

Oh, I bet x is on her trip! Totally forgot about that. I hated the gum. The lozenges aren't great, but they are ok. Working a lifesaver now and praying for the best. I haven't had pop in forever and I got a hankerin for one so I got a mtn dew in the cafeteria. Needless to say it's now down the drain. That stuff is potent! And I'm so bloated and full. Sheesh. I appreciate yyour support because I felt like I was doing well and now I feel sad that I'm still on the lozenges. I want off them, I really do. I just get scared. I don't want to loose and progress here and go back to square one. I know everyone here says take as long as you need but in this case I'm ready, well, sort of. I just need to save some of them for emergencies and jump in to the water and see that it's going to be ok. I need a mantra for this scared feeling. Got a mantra for me?