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ISIS defeated.   Discussions

Started 30/3/18 by ahe489q; 12885 views.

From: BerrySteph


S0DASI said:

TRUMP SHIP IS SINKING!! It should have been sinking a long time ago!

Sondland is good evidence of why Trump shouldn't be reselected by the pubs ... his million dollar investment in Trump isn't paying the dividends he expected.

He came clean about some of the conversaions he had and accuses the White House and the State Department of refusing him access to his phone records.


I, Gordon Sondland, do hereby swear and affirm as follows:

1. I have reviewed the October 22, 2019, opening statement of Ambassador William Taylor.

I have also reviewed the October 31, 2019, opening statement of Tim Morrison. These two opening statements have refreshed my recollection about certain conversations in early September 2019.

2. Ambassador Taylor recalls that I told Mr. Morrison in early September 2019 that the resumption of U.S. aid to Ukraine had become tied to a public statement to be issued by Ukraine agreeing to investigate Burisma.

Ambassador Taylor recalls that Mr. Morrison told Ambassador Taylor that I told Mr. Morrison that I had conveyed this message to Mr. Yermak on September 1, 2019, in connection with Vice President Pence’s visit to Warsaw and a meeting with President Zelensky.

Mr. Morrison recalls that I said to him in early September that resumption of U.S. aid to Ukraine might be conditioned on a public statement reopening the Burisma investigation.

3. In my October 17, 2019 prepared testimony and in my deposition, I made clear that I had understood sometime after our May 23, 2019, White House debriefing that scheduling a White House visit for President Zelensky was conditioned upon President Zelensky’s agreement to make a public anti-corruption statement.

This condition had been communicated by Rudy Giuliani, with whom President Trump directed Ambassador Volker, Secretary Perry, and me, on May 23, 2019, to discuss issues related to the President’s concerns about Ukraine.

Ambassador Volker, Secretary Perry, and I understood that satisfying Mr. Giuliani was a condition for scheduling the White House visit, which we all strongly believed to be in the mutual interest of the United States and Ukraine.

4. With respect to the September 1, 2019, Warsaw meeting, the conversations described in Ambassador Taylor’s and Mr. Morrison’s opening statements have refreshed my recollection about conversations involving the suspension of U.S. aid, which had become public only days earlier. I always believed that suspending aid to Ukraine was ill-advised, although I did not know (and still do not know) when, why, or by whom the aid was suspended.

However; by the beginning of September 2019, and in the absence of any credible explanation for the suspension of aid, I presumed that the aid suspension had become linked to the proposed anti-corruption statement.

As I said in my prepared testimony, security aid to Ukraine was in our vital national interest and should not have been delayed for any reason. And it would have been natural for me to have voiced what I had presumed to Ambassador Taylor, Senator Johnson, the Ukrainians, and Mr. Morrison.

5. Also, I now do recall a conversation on September 1, 2019, in Warsaw with Mr. Yermak. This brief pull-aside conversation followed the larger meeting involving Vice President Pence and President Zelensky, in which President Zelensky had raised the issue of the suspension of U.S. aid to Ukraine directly with Vice President Pence.

After that large meeting, I now recall speaking individually with Mr. Yermak, where I said that resumption of U.S. aid would likely not occur until Ukraine provided the public anti-corruption statement that we had been discussing for many weeks. I also recall some question as to whether the public statement could come from the newly appointed Ukrainian Prosecutor General, rather than from President Zelensky directly.

6. Soon thereafter, I came to understand that, in fact, the public statement would need to come directly from President Zelensky himself. I do not specifically recall how I learned this, but I believe that the information may have come either from Mr. Giuliani or from Ambassador Volker, who may have discussed this with Mr. Giuliani.

In a later conversation with Ambassador Taylor, I told him that I had been mistaken about whether a public statement could come from the Prosecutor General; I had come to understand that the public statement would have to come from President Zelensky himself.

7. Finally, as of this writing, I cannot specifically recall if I had one or two phone calls with President Trump in the September 6-9 time frame.

Despite repeated requests to the White House and the State Department, I have not been granted access to all of the phone records, and I would like to review those phone records, along with any notes and other documents that may exist, to determine if I can provide more complete testimony to assist Congress.

However, although I have no specific recollection of phone calls during this period with Ambassador Taylor or Mr. Morrison, I have no reason to question the substance of their recollection about my September 1 conversation with Mr. Yermak.

I declare under penalty of perjury that the aforementioned is true.

Executed on November 4, 2019.
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From: fabul0us


How defeated is ISISL? They grow like weed!

"Defeated' ISIS has found safe haven in an ungoverned part of Iraq.

Though President Donald Trump declared "100% of the ISIS Caliphate" defeated, the group is roaming freely in a remote part of Iraq, military officials say.

Nov. 4, 2019, 5:12 PM EST By Courtney Kube

MAKHMOUR, Iraq — Just months after the Islamic State militant group lost the last of its territory in Syria, and days after its leader, Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, was killed in a U.S.-led raid, the group has found safe haven in a remote, ungoverned space in Iraq, as foreign fighters move across the border from Syria, military officials tell NBC news.



From: ahe489q


They are not defeated but are on the run.


From: fabul0us




From: BerrySteph


fabul0us said:

Though President Donald Trump declared "100% of the ISIS Caliphate" defeated, the group is roaming freely in a remote part of Iraq, military officials say.

So you've made still more Syrians homeless and destitute.

Gee, you know its going to cause even more chaos and suffering - but you're pleased with yourselves anyway!


From: Dot_hoe


Q: How do you play Taliban bingo?

A: B-52...F-16...B-1...



From: BerrySteph


If you don't like terrorism then stop doing it.


From: Dot_hoe


The only Canadian terrorists & Tunisian national brainwashed thugs mass-murdered 14 women at the Polytechnic in Montreal. His name is Marc Lepine  born Gamil Gharbi and wounded ten women and four men...

point_right AND

Toronto terror plot: Tunisian charged by U.S. allegedly had ties to Canadian VIA Rail suspects.

By Wendy Gillis and Curtis RushStaff Reporters
Thu., May 9, 2013

The same day two men were arrested for allegedly planning a deadly terrorist attack on Canadian soil a third was taken into custody at New York’s John F. Kennedy International Airport in connection to the plot, newly unsealed U.S. Department of Justice documents reveal.



From: TAB00GA


A very sad day in history 


From: Berylline


Will these warmonger ever be defeated?