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The real Truth about Palestine   History and Archaeology

Started 14-Jan by Dot_hoe; 1636 views.
Dot_hoe

From: Dot_hoe

14-Jan

Rebuttal The Real Truth about Palestine

Watch Ambassador Danny Ayalon as he rebuttals to "The real Truth about Palestine"

DannyAyalon 24 Dec 2013
https://youtu.be/5jjOOpEvMHA

"Palestine was the Greco-Roman name for a region.  In the year 135 AC, the name of the region became the official name of one of the provinces of the Roman Empire in an attempt to obliterate the connection between the Jewish people and Judea - the land they've inhabited for over 1000 years.

However, like Antarctica, the Amazons or the Sahara, naming a place doesn't create a nation of Antarcticans or Saharans.

Oh, and for the record, Jesus was not a Palestinian, he was a Judean Jew."

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Dot_hoe

From: Dot_hoe

14-Jan

feet Arab Historian Admits

there is No Palestinian People

Judith Bergman |  09/11/2017

When the Ottoman rule ended, there was no Palestinian national identity or political borders. It was all made up later. Arabs themselves say so, but the west isn’t listening

One of the biggest, most stubborn and costliest untruths of our time is the notion that the jihad waged by Arabs in the Palestinian Authority (PA) and Gaza against Jews in Israel is a national struggle of an indigenous people for independence.

https://en.mida.org.il/2017/11/09/arab-historian-admits-no-palestinian-people/

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Eliot (Elohimil)

From: Eliot (Elohimil)

15-Jan

We have to dig out some of the Archaeological aspect to this as well which dates to pre-historical discoveries! 

The other side of the world they scream and claim that the god alliances have the right to it all with rockets!!!

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BerrySteph

From: BerrySteph

16-Jan

Dot_hoe said:

Oh, and for the record, Jesus was not a Palestinian, he was a Judean Jew

http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2017/07/ ancient-dna-counters-biblical-account-mysterious-canaanites

Archaeologists have been excavating the Canaanite city of Sidon since 1998 - ALI HASHISHO/REUTERS/Newscom

You need to stop doing this.

What you've posted is simply a racist lie worthy of the Nazis (but a lot more fraudulent).

Its a lie perpetrated in order to cheat people who were much too gentle for their own good.

The Palestinians are the Jews of 2000 years ago.

You know its true.

Not only that, but this from next door (but still within Biblical Palestine) suggests (maybe proves) that there was never an ethnic cleansing in, or even near, Palestine for 3,700 years.

Ancient DNA reveals fate of the mysterious Canaanites

Jul. 27, 2017 -When the pharaohs ruled Egypt and the ancient Greeks built their first cities, a mysterious people called the Canaanites dominated the Near East. Around 4000 years ago, they built cities across the Levant, which includes present-day Lebanon, Israel, Jordan, and part of Syria.

... the Bible’s Old Testament, which suggestsa grisly end for many Canaanites: After the Israelites’ exodus from Egypt, God ordered them to destroy Canaan and its people

... did that really happen? Archaeological data suggests that Canaanite cities were never destroyed or abandoned. Now, ancient DNA recovered from five Canaanite skeletons suggests that these people survived to contribute their genes to millions of people living today.

The new samples come from Sidon, a coastal city in Lebanon. Marc Haber, a geneticist at the Wellcome Trust Sanger Institute in Hinxton, U.K., extracted enough DNA from the ancient skeletons to sequence the whole genomes of five Canaanite individuals, all around 3700 years old.

... About 50% of the Canaanites’ genes came from local farmers who settled the Levant about 10,000 years ago ...Eastern migrants arrived in the Levant and started mixing with locals around 5000 years ago.

This finding fits with other recent studies of the Levant. Iosif Lazaridis, a geneticist at Harvard Medical School in Boston "...part of this broader Canaanite population”

... Haber found that the present-day Lebanese population is largely descended from the ancient Canaanites, inheriting more than 90% of their genes from this ancient source. The other 7% may have come from migrants from Central Europe who moved to the Levant around 3000 years ago.

And before you ask, most of this has been strongly suspected for a long time.

There had never any kind of ethnic cleansing in Palestine - nor even a lot of admixture - until 1948, when white Europeans arrived and announced that G-d had given them this land.

If you want there to be Holocaust II, carry on as you're doing. 100s of millions of complete innocents, living in their ancestral homelands, stand to being exterminated because the criminals you defend insist on beating and robbing and killing them from the homes and lands they've owned for at least 3,700 years.

BerrySteph

From: BerrySteph

16-Jan

Dot_hoe said:

When the Ottoman rule ended, there was no Palestinian national identity or political borders.

Biblical Palestine included the whole of Lebanon (the yellow part in this map).

Palestine included Gaza and a bit more - but not the Negev. Totally different conditions and people.

Why are you doing this?

Palestine has had roughly the same borders since Biblical times - check out Numbers 34:1-12 and Ezekiel 47:13-20

Palestine did not include Negev (where the camel trains and Hajj pilgrims passed and people considered themselves Syrian, or possibly Egyptian). The Zionists simply wanted an overland route to the Indian Ocean so they demanded Negev.

However, Palestine always included the whole of Lebanon, up to and far beyond Beirut.

But Chaim Weizmann did not demand Lebanon at the 1919 Peace Conference when he declared war "Palestine to become as Jewish as England is English" http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=Pg3laOc4okEC&pg=PA257- The Letters and Papers of Chaim Weizmann

Why did the the Zionists not want the Lebanon half of Palestine? Three reasons if we care to discuss them ... but of course, Zionists never want to discuss real history. They know that Lebanon can be stolen later - being the most desireable piece of "from the Nile to the Euphrates".

Similarly, Britain didn't offer Jordan to the Zionists and they didn't want it.

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BerrySteph

From: BerrySteph

16-Jan

Tittah said:

So well said!

You like it when foreign terrorists beat and rob and kill the Christians and Muslims of Palestine?

Tittah

From: Tittah

16-Jan

The Arab world, meanwhile, has done nothing to help the Palestinians in Syria.

The Arab League did not hold an emergency meeting to discuss what Palestinians described as "massacres" against the refugees in Yarmouk, home to some 50,000 people.

http://forums.delphiforums.com/politiquor/messages/596/1

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Fella13

From: Fella13

17-Jan

I knew that part, thanks!! 

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