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Why Are We in Ukraine?   Discussions

Started 27-Oct by Apollonius (Theocritos); 2794 views.
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From: AuntBetsie


Christopher Caldwell 

The Roots of Our Partisan Divide.

Hillsdale College 25 Feb 2020

Christopher Caldwell is a contributing editor at the Claremont Review of Books and a contributing opinion writer for The New York Times. A graduate of Harvard College, his essays, columns, and reviews appear in The Wall Street Journal, The New York Times Book Review, the Spectator, Financial Times, the Claremont Review of Books, and numerous other publications. He is the author of Reflections on the Revolution in Europe: Immigration, Islam, and the West and The Age of Entitlement: America Since the Sixties.

The Allan P. Kirby, Jr. Center for Constitutional Studies and Citizenship is part of Hillsdale College's Washington, D.C., campus, and seeks to advance the mission of the College in the nation's capital.



From: AuntBetsie


The most excellent description of Vladimir Putin within the Russian diplomats and some warmongers hold him up, in spite of the ample opponents by countless citizens in Russia.


From: albatler


history may not repeat ,but it Rymes..

Putin is doing what Hitler did..

 uniting his people.

If Hitler needs to be invoked, I'm afraid I'm one of those who thinks Joe Biden better fits that description than Vladimir Putin.

I don't like Putin but I absolutely detest Biden (and his handlers).

We know that Nero was mad, but we're under no obligation to forgive him for his crimes just because of that.   Joe Biden is the most corrupt politician America has seen in a century.   He has been both for and against every issue that has come before the American public.  His game is expediency and his aim is all for himself (and his degenerate family).   The man needs to be charged with war crimes (and much else).

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A no-nonsense analysis of recent political and military developments in the Ukraine war.

Given the current political and military situation and Russian partial mobilization, it appears likely that a large-scale Russian ground and air offensive is imminent. The US and NATO might respond to such an offensive by providing more powerful weapons to Ukraine or by creating a “safe zone” in western Ukraine. Although Ukrainian authorities will try to keep residents in major cities, many people will try to flee to neighboring countries and other European countries.

The economic and energy situation in Europe and elsewhere will also likely continue to deteriorate, especially if the remaining Brotherhood gas pipeline through Ukraine or the Druzhba oil pipeline through Ukraine and Poland should be closed or destroyed.

A Ukrainian peace deal might have been possible on the basis of a bilingual federal state and a neutral foreign policy, but few actors were interested in such a solution. Given Russian annexations and the US/NATO proxy war strategy, a peace deal is probably no longer realistic at this point.

The Ukraine war is a complex war because it is driven by ethnic aspects (“East Slavic war”), historical aspects (the Soviet legacy), geostrategic aspects (NATO expansion), global aspects (US world order vs. multipolar world order), and ideological aspects (Western liberalism vs. Eastern traditionalism).

The overall US geopolitical goal remains the containment or subjugation of both Russia and China, and thus global predominance, as almost achieved in the 1990s. To this end, the US is using both Europe and East Asia as “Eurasian bridgeheads” (Brzezinski). In contrast, Russia and China, while advocating a multipolar world order, may ultimately try to impose a kind of “Eurasian doctrine”, similar to the Monroe doctrine, and confront US forces on the Eurasian continent.

Myra (MKratz)

From: Myra (MKratz)


There are so many developments about Russia and Putin's invasions in the Ukraine with all the refugees around the world by the globalists mentra, it is almost impossible to focus on one issue about that matter. 

I mainly focus on how avoidable it all was and how the Biden administration and its antecedents (Obama, H. Clinton) along with the State Dept., Defense Dept., and a miscellany of Washington bureaucrats, party hacks, and media promoters have been determined to pursue this war, both as part of their object for U.S. hegemony, but even more importantly as part of their tightening of control over populations in the West, especially as that relates to energy consumption and their insistence on 'green' energy solutions, which will only work to support a small elite class while the rest of us devolve into a Third World standard of living.

At one time when the war began, we heard that one country or another was helping Ukraine militarily without insisting on the types of armament provided. But now that the Ukrainian army is making significant progress, discretion is no longer appropriate. On the different side, it is time to more clearly position the names of the arsenals that make the difference on the front line, because success on the battlefield is the pride and the selling point of the weaponry industry.



From: Dot_hoe


You explained it all so beautifully... 

Sadly more Wars are in the forecast, initiated by the same radical Globalists.