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Valley of the Sun Quilters   Off-Topic Chat

Started 8/20/15 by KS Carolyn (KSCarolyn); 2600632 views.
Pirate (PIRATE_SR)

From: Pirate (PIRATE_SR)


AliceRosner said:

new to AZ

member of Delta quilters Brentwood Ca

Have you just moved to Arizona??   cuz I live just down the highway from you in Walnut Creek, CA!


Pirate (PIRATE_SR)

From: Pirate (PIRATE_SR)


First rule:  **do not blindly believe** other people's trees.  It's easy to get names mixed up.  Or dates.  Or misread something.  Or just plain have something WRONG.

Absolutely, look at everyone else's family trees but VERIFY to your own satisfaction that the people in those trees are the ones in your family.  Even if the tree was created by a long-known first cousin and you absolutely, positively KNOW she is your first cousin, VERIFY her information before you put it in your tree.

I have come across a circle of 7 trees that had parentage for a person I was also looking for.  I was delighted!  Except when I discovered that NONE of those trees had any sources for the parentage and they simply copied each other.  Ugh.

And then there was another tree that had parentage and I was ecstatic!  Until further research revealed that the parentage on the other tree couldn't possibly be true because some of their dates were simply inconsistent with what I knew to be facts.  Then I discovered that the father figure was the same first & last name but different middle name .. plus the inconsistent dates.    That other tree had an entire ancestral branch that wasn't of the family at all.  It was very disappointing.

Census can provide some very illuminating information!  Relations can be known by first names one time and their middle name another time.  Did someone disappear from a census?  Maybe they died.  Maybe a woman got married and now lives with her husband's household with his surname.  Maybe a son grew up and moved away.  Remember to check the whereabouts of SIBLINGS from the census.  Although siblings are not in your directly ancestral line, it's interesting to see how close family members lived to each other.

DO NOT GET HUNG UP ON IN-LAWS!!!.   Let me repeat that:   the spouse of a sibling, aunt, uncle, great aunt/uncle, etc ARE NOT related to you.  If they were never in your family tree, YOUR ancestors would exactly the same.  So, at least initially, DO NOT go down the rabbit hole of researching spouse-in-laws!   Let's say your brother married.  His wife is NO relation of yours, so don't waste your time on researching HER ancestors too.  They don't relate to you at all.   Now the spouse of your grandfather .. absolutely!  Without the grandmother, YOU wouldn't even be here, so you gotta research her line.  But her siblings' spouses?  NOPE, no way.  Leave them alone.  You don't have time for that.  :-)

I'm sure you've discovered a way to find all/most of the siblings of a mother.  When you do a search looking for births, put in the surname of the child, put in the maiden name of the mother.  Leave everything else blank because you don't KNOW the names or the birth year or even the birth location of all the kids.  Just because child 1 was born in City X, doesn't mean than any siblings will have been born there also.  With just that minimal information, you'll get a number of hits.  Now, just because the mother's maiden name and the child's surname match your search, LOOK at the birth years.  If they are 50 years apart, they probably are not siblings.  But if the difference in birth years is "reasonable" (in my case, I am 7 years apart from each of my brothers), then you very well might have found all the siblings.   Double check where they lived at those birth years with the location on the birth record to verify that this is the right child/mother combination and you're not getting someone else's people.

As Jonna mentioned, Find A Grave is fantastic.  Be sure and read through the entire screen because there could be other relatives mentioned.  If you can't find the information you want directly, go through one of the relations to see if the relation's tree (from another family member) mentions anything about your person.

I'm at a point where I think I've found everyone that can be found on both my Mom & Dad's side.  Most of the time I don't have photos.  Most of the time all I have are "just the facts, m'am" ... birth, marriage, children, death.  I've hit a brick wall on my dad's side.  The information just hasn't been digitized for me to find.  The information could be in paper form that I would need to take a road trip out of the country  to see ... and I'm not going to be doing that.

Have you looked at your DNA matches??  I've figured out some relations (2nd/3rd cousins) and have emailed them, asking them (very politely) if they would be interested in seeing who our common ancestor was.  I hope, but don't except a reply.  I've even emailed 2nd/3rd cousins who I KNOW are related to me .. because I KNOW who the common or related ancestor is .. and in those cases, I cite the person so they know I'm actual family and not some weirdo stranger. (Yes, I know I'm still a weirdo person, but they don't need to find that out until later, if at all.  :-)  ).    Sometimes the cousin is interested in pursuing the line of questioning, sometimes not.  MOST of the time, I am the one who has most of the information, which is disappointing.  What is really disappointing is when the cousins don't even have any photographs they are willing to share.  I really like photos of my ancestors and relations.

But, it *is* fascinating.


From: Midkid5


You are so right about double checking information and not going down the in law rabbit hole.   I have a cousin who has a HUGH tree...his great grand father and my great grandfather were brothers...some of the info in his tree is not correct and some is iffy, and he has in-law info so it's hard to follow.

My aunt started researching her family history before the internet, her advise is trust your gut, if it doesn't seem right it probably isn't and if it does even if you can't find documentation it probably is.  Her interest was picked when she and each of her nine siblings recieved a check from a distance aunt.  The check was for about nine hundred, but it is said that if the lawyers hadn't had to search so long and hard for one missing relative those checks would have been closer to five thousand.  I have no idea how many cousins got checks to but quite a few.



From: AliceRosner


Love paper piecing

do a lot of scrap piecing strip piecing on used dryer sheets for stabilizing. 
CA guild and local club made donation quilts   
Yetta introduced me To this group and it is fun sharing ideas and learning new things. 


From: AliceRosner


I  am in Sun City Oro Valley and can’t wait to get to the sewing room and meet fellow quilters. Had dear friend who lived in Sun City near Phoenix as a Snowbird she would come back with all these new projects to share. 


From: AliceRosner


Just moved October 1 and doing a little remodel on small house in Sun City Oro Valley AZ. Decided to move closer to sons as I am getting older. 
Belonged to Delta Quilters for over 15 years and a small group in Summerset in Brentwood. Maybe we know people. I know Yetta from when she lived in CA. 


From: bornblesse2


Before long.....we just had another meeting, working on things.

patti,  I need some ideas from you!  I have had a pile of Winnie the Pooh fabrics from church here at home.  Finally today I was able to get two of the pieces into a size for kids!  And backing for one.

now, I am left with this!  3  framed blocks, 2 side strips.  They are CUTE!  But needs something to make it usable Size.  I found a blue that is close so the top frame on one block could be fixed and have the blue plaid print that could make a fourth square?  Or, that long strip that could be used somewhere....,

the blue checked print I have 2 pieces about a yard each,,,,but one has a hunk out of it.  My mind just isn’t seeing an instant pattern.

oh, I have this piece too.... it is about 2 yards long, but only about 1/2 the width of fabric.

  Got ideas?  Or can I kit it up for you at retreat?  Would you want some other color to go with?

i need your brainstorming!

Suze (casuzenn)

From: Suze (casuzenn)


The winds have died down so they are getting a handle on the fire situation...the voluntary evacuation notices were lifted last night...the containment number is at 25% which is pretty good...

Sis has her Go Bags packed...says they will stay packed until fire season is over.

We did have one crisis... Daddy said he is NOT going anywhere...yikes...the elder of my two local nephews said he would deal with Daddy if it came down to evacuation...he and his brother would probably have to pick  Daddy up, kicking and screaming...but there is no way they would leave their Mom to stay in a fire zone...and she and Mama would not leave if Daddy were still there...

Not sure where they would have gone if they DID have to evacuate...all the shelters are full and they were recommending folks stay in their cars because of the COVID situation...not a pretty picture in any case. My younger nephew was in  one of the voluntary evacuation zones...with two sick kids and cat dying of cancer...not sure that many people would fit in the elder nephew's condo!!!

Sis says 'THANK YOU' to everyone who sent up prayers....

viola (sissly4)

From: viola (sissly4)


You and I could almost be twins that's all I do is do Scrappy quilts and I donate them all for charity like I said I live in Sun City I don't know where you live but let us know and maybe we could get together glad you found us I've been here since 04 with this group

Pirate (PIRATE_SR)

From: Pirate (PIRATE_SR)


Suze (casuzenn) said:

Not sure where they would have gone if they DID have to evacuate...all the shelters are full and they were recommending folks stay in their cars because of the COVID situation.