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Started 1/25/18 by Paula (PaulaS44); 8523 views.

From: RedBV


Which was not actually a needed change . . . except to continue a slow building on the zeta format and slow phase out of the classic format . . .

Frankly, Delphi thought that if they made a change with new bells and whistles, that catered to folks who liked playing with and using bells and whistles . . . there would be a large influx of more paying members . . . even across the internet that notion doesn't play out for a number of reasons . . . and unless and until that dynamic comes about (bells and whistles that folks want and are willing to pay for) the majority of members and internet users will continue not using or wanting such . . . and in many cases disliking such changes . . . be it here on Delphi, at Facebook, etc. . . .

As many of us tried to point out when zeta was being created . . . Delphi's niche is discussion and is a premier format for that . . . it is not Facebook, Instagram, twitter, etc. . . . for me (and others have talked) with using FB or twitter, a discussion on them is not unlike a regression to the old style line by line staircase style of discussion . . . along with bells and whistles . . . that many users find cumbersome, etc., and dislike both in comparison to Delphi classic . . .

For folks that wanted fancy pages, graphic's, etc., and always wanted to tinker with such . . . they could do it on their own or engage the services of theme makers to do that, by using CSS, etc. . . . however, for many many folks they weren't inclined to do so . . . often just interested in only a signature to add to their posts . . .

Personally, doubt that Delphi and the folks that wanted something new . . . didn't bother to look around and see the number of forums that "didn't use" and "didn't really want" some new format . . . being happy with the classic format . . .

Yes, there were requests by some of the above folks for tweaks to classic . . . for example - such as being able to delete entire PM conversations . . . but not an entire change to the format . . .

Anyway, this is not the first time that Delphi has made a change that delights only a few . . . and that has been a problem for Delphi all along - pleasing a few at the expense of the majority of the base . . .

All in all, it is not the notion of change and getting used to it . . . it is the fact of why change to something and the inherent learning curve . . . when for most folks it really adds nothing to why they are here and pay in the first place . . .

Anyway . . .


From: RedBV


Why be surprised . . .

For many folks a PM is just that, a private message now and then of info they didn't want in an open forum for the world to see . . . not a private discussion of PM after PM after PM . . .

Personally, what should have been looked at is offering a new feature . . . private discussions . . . and left the old PM format alone . . . not unlike when Delphi added the feature of blogs, that many folks don't use . . . over all the "guest book" tab could have been converted into "private discussions" . . . can't count the number of profiles (since the addition of guest book) that have nothing or next to nothing under the "guest book" tab . . .

In other words - click on a profile and there is the choice of PM and Private Discussion . . . and to access the private discussions click on the tab . . .

All in all - a concerted evaluation of the classic format . . . converting/deleting little used features . . . and making classic even better than it is . . . staying true to the reason for Delphi Forums in the first place . . . not a totally new format and adding in features that emulate, for example, the message function of Facebook or some such . . .

Anyway . . .


From: Westlake56


I just tried your suggesting of holding down the shift key when pressing enter to move down a line. It still sent the message. Did I miss something?


I've requested that it be added as has at least one other person. I'll re-vocalize right now!

@Cstar1 May we please have the ability to paragraph.

In reply toRe: msg 36
Risa (Risa25)

From: Risa (Risa25)


I find it interesting that all the PMs I wanted to keep that are now lost were when the forum was still in the Classic format not the zeta--perhaps that's why they didn't survive the transition? Could they still be on a server somewhere? she said hopefully

From: Cstar1


Forums shouldn't have any impact on PM's. They're separate systems.

Try clicking on the name of the person you were exchanging PMs with, and open their mini-profile. Then click on Send Private Message. Your entire Conversation (all messages to and from) with them should open, with the oldest messages at the top.

Cstar1 said:

Try clicking on the name of the person you were exchanging PMs with, and open their mini-profile. Then click on Send Private Message. Your entire Conversation (all messages to and from) with them should open, with the oldest messages at the top.

Let me know if you are still missing messages in that conversation after following Cstar's instruction.

I have a theory but am open to being proven incorrect lol

Risa (Risa25)

From: Risa (Risa25)


Thanks Cstar but I can't GET the names of some of the people because they are gone, a few even have died; and the only place their name is now was in the lost PMs. I can't get any further back than 2016 with the PMs and some of these went back to 2011. Any help is appreciated! If I had known they would vanish I would have found a way to save them but it was easy to leave them in my InBox so I didn't.
The more recent ones, last few months, DO open just as you say.
Risa (Risa25)

From: Risa (Risa25)


Magnet, pleases see above to CStar; I don't know how to CC in this format thanks